Still smoking support and chat thread
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Hi Shari-
You're doing fine, in fact, better than most (including myself when I first started) in keeping the terminology straight.
And yes, the question of "what is an RBA this week" is why I get so picky about it.
Technically, all rebuildable atomizers (whether they have tanks or you drip directly on the coil "unit") are rebuildable atomizers or RBA's.
The distinction comes when you have an RTA, which includes a tank of some sort (ie:kayfun, Russian, AGA-T & etc) or a RDA (which is more correctly called a DDA OR direct-dripping atomizer).
RDA and DDA's are really the same thing it just diferentiates from the term that makes it seem as though it has a tank. Examples include the Igo-L, the SmokTek dripper that we mentioned and the Trident which is mentioned a lot around here.
Just to make it more confusing, there are also "convertible" atomizers that can either be used as a RBA/RTA or a RDA/DDA by removing the tank section and screwing the bottom of the atomizer (that includes the atty to mod/battery connection) to the top deck (where you mount your coils). See the Youde AGI https://www.stratomyst.com/AGI_Reb.../Youde-AGA-TD-Rebuildable-Atomizer_p_211.html
OK, sorry if that comes out like a rant and I'm glad the last post was received as I intended.
Thanks for listening lol.
That purple rda is what mine looks like. It is about the same diameter as my Igo-L but taller. With mine the airflow comes in through the bottom, there are no side airholes, and the top is the whole beehive that screws onto the bottom deck and connector piece. I like that it screws on better than the Igo-L, which I have to pull off and I have to use a thick rubber band to get traction to pull the damn top off, even when it is mounted on my Provari.
The first time I took the top off the Igo-L I was almost in tears. I could not figure out how to get it off. Nothing comes with directions. I emailed a friend and then went through all the experimentation to find the way to grab the top part and pull it off. I have to keep putting vg on the orings to keep them supple so I can get the top off. Those thick rubber bands that come around junk mail from the post office are life savers. My fancy jar grabbers and DH rubberized tip clamps and pliers did not work for me. I have nightmares of ripping the threads off my Provari trying to get the top off. lol
The first time I took the top off the Igo-L I was almost in tears. I could not figure out how to get it off. Nothing comes with directions. I emailed a friend and then went through all the experimentation to find the way to grab the top part and pull it off. I have to keep putting vg on the orings to keep them supple so I can get the top off. Those thick rubber bands that come around junk mail from the post office are life savers. My fancy jar grabbers and DH rubberized tip clamps and pliers did not work for me. I have nightmares of ripping the threads off my Provari trying to get the top off. lol
I do not like doing direct lung hits, they irritate my throat and I swear they irritate my lungs/chest. I would rather inhale into my mouth and then take into my lungs, if I choose to do so. I am finding that with my Igo-L and the Octopus (thanks Karen) the amount of draw I need to do is more than my 510 attys and I end up doing lung inhales. Do not like it. I am wondering if I need to drill out the airhole on the Igo. Don't know if I have the equipment to do that in the garage. Do not want to freak out DH. Do not want to have to do that much work to make it work for me.
I am hoping that I can get a better vape from the Russian. If I have to do direct lung inhales all the time, it will not work for me. I also think that maybe I will have to lower my nicotine to less than 12mg. I have been using some of the 18mg in the Igo-L and I think it may be too harsh. More experimenting to do.
I remember when I first started vaping and I was talking about doing direct lung inhales and whomever I was talking to said they never heard of anyone doing that. That was last June or July. Look how much has changed; now everybody talks about it. And I still feel like I am a baby with this vaping and my knowledge. Amazing.
SHari, I use an old bat that died, think about looking for something cheaper to use just in case
Are you saying that the draw from your Igo-L is too tight to do mouth to lung inhales? If that's the case, then drilling the air hole a bit larger would make it airier. My problem with the Omega is that with the huge air holes open it's too airy for mouth to lung inhales. I have to close them off until there's a dramatic reduction in air flow. If you drill yours out just make sure to do it a little at a time.
When I went to RDA's I immediately had to change my nic level to 6 mg, anything higher than that is just too much. Most of the people I communicate with have all gone to 6 mg with RDA or they end up nic sick. I don't have to do lung inhales, I choose too but sometimes do mouth to lung, it all depends on the moment. 
I can't do straight to lung hits it feels weird! Mount to lung is how I smoke so more natural for sure! And I find heavy mods or equipment throws me also, guess I am still searching for my right combo, I have found that I mix all my liquid with a quarter vg to cut the flavor to strong a flavor and it overloads my senses!
I totally want to start DIY juice but just spent monies to get different style mods, batteries tanks per mixed juice to get a feel for what I want/need! Again feel bad cuz I am still smoking but I just can't beat myself up! Or I will smoke more!
I totally want to start DIY juice but just spent monies to get different style mods, batteries tanks per mixed juice to get a feel for what I want/need! Again feel bad cuz I am still smoking but I just can't beat myself up! Or I will smoke more!
Figures. Where do people use these things? Does everyone stay home in a recliner?
Obviously not.
But they sure aren't meant for traveling. The provari wieghs a ton! I've been looking at Nautillus v. Aerotank. I just really hate adding a whole new line of coils to what I already have. Reports are that Aerotank will accept single coils - and I have a ton of those. I've got the BCC -> BDC and the aero adapters already.
I like the rebuilding stuff. It's just not time for me yet. I feel like I'm a dinasour for not getting into it.
You haven't tried your Russian YET?
I took it out of the box and looked it over, and looked over all the extra goodies that came with it. I watch Pbusardo's video on it and 2 others. Thought about it. Unscrewed a couple of the pieces and then decided that I need to do this when I have a good couple of hours to concentrate just on the Russian.
I built a coil for the Octopus instead and rewicked my Igo-L. I am trying to get a 2.0 or 2.2ohm coil perfect and figure out the amount of cotton to use before I commit.
You all know that I abhor change and move on making decisions real real slow. I am thrilled that I can whip out a coil in under 5 minutes. I just have not yet been able to get to the magic ohms number. First one was a mess, could not get it nice and straight and tight, then I could not get it mounted. Got it secured, I thought so cut the extra legs. Then one end fell off and I could not get it reattached. So in the garbage.
Second one came in at 1.6ohms but used the wrong rod so was a nano coil. Wrapped the cotton around it and vaped it for a day and a half with lousy flavor and almost no vapor.
Third one we won't talk about. Fourth one went from 28ga to 30ga kanthal and from 11 wraps to 14 wraps. It came in at 3.0ohms. That one I am vaping on the Octopus. It was a royal PITA to mount. I thought the little hand turned screws would make it easier, but I found the Igo-L with the screw driver was easier to attach the coil. Go figure.
The Russian will be conquered over the weekend. Lots of little parts, which is my least favorite thing to deal with. Also, I need to decide what juice I like enough to fill the thing with 4ml of juice. Big decisions.
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Don't you have to use stainless steel mesh with a genny? I heard those were harder to get going well. A group of the Provari people are using the Sophia, with the ceramic cup. The byLeo stuff. The ones using them love them.
I can not see me doing ss mesh or ceramic. I can not see me doing a carto tank either. Too much more to learn at one time. Already have too many things with lots of little pieces.
I am figuring that out just from reading people's posts and now, your comments. I do not know how to drill anything. I know DH has drills and I bought him a Dremel years ago, so he better still have it. I just do not want to have to do that. I would screw it up and DH does not have steady hands to do that kind of close work. I still may do it down the road. We will see how the Russian turns out for me.
It takes time to figure out what is right for you. I stayed with my Spinners and 510 attys for months. I knew I wanted more at some point but what I was using was working for me not to smoke and I did not want to rock the boat. I am old and do not like lots of changes.
I would be happy with 4 juices that I love forever and that is that. No need to keep trying more. But moods and tastes change. So I have to make myself change too, to stay satisfied. I am fortunate that I am not one that has to have every new thing that comes out. I could never afford it.
Although, ask anyone here, I probably have had upwards of 125 different bottles of juice sitting around me on my coffee table at a given time. And have liked about 10 or 12 and loved 2 or 3. So I am pretty stringent in my tastes. (Fussy)
I would be happy with 4 juices that I love forever and that is that. No need to keep trying more. But moods and tastes change. So I have to make myself change too, to stay satisfied. I am fortunate that I am not one that has to have every new thing that comes out. I could never afford it.
Although, ask anyone here, I probably have had upwards of 125 different bottles of juice sitting around me on my coffee table at a given time. And have liked about 10 or 12 and loved 2 or 3. So I am pretty stringent in my tastes. (Fussy)
Shari, don't let the Russian and all it's parts intimidate you. You don't have to take every piece apart each time you rewick or rebuild. The tank can stay together, and you can leave the top on, too, if you're just rewicking and not changing flavors. Once you get going you'll find it's not as difficult as it seems.
i still have yet to build my russian.
got tracking on my contest win this morning. afterwards i was asked what batteries i have. my 18650 batteries are high capacity for my evic.. not high drain. so i need high drain batteries for it.
they built the atty for me, its at .6 ohms. i havent used anything that low before. will be interesting. will be using it on my k100 with my 18500 high drain battery since i can handle the amp draw (my 18650 only goes to 4.7 amps) of about 7 amps on a full battery.
got tracking on my contest win this morning. afterwards i was asked what batteries i have. my 18650 batteries are high capacity for my evic.. not high drain. so i need high drain batteries for it.
they built the atty for me, its at .6 ohms. i havent used anything that low before. will be interesting. will be using it on my k100 with my 18500 high drain battery since i can handle the amp draw (my 18650 only goes to 4.7 amps) of about 7 amps on a full battery.
I don't have a Kraken, but an RSST - from looking at them, a Genesis is a Genesis. Not a whole lot of differences.
You don't necessarily have to use SS mesh or even rope. I actually did a horizontal microcoil with a teeny little puff of cotton between the coil and the wick hole. RiP Trippers and others call that "auto dripping mode". Definitely don't leave it on its side if you do it though. When you vape, just tip it a bit toward you to fill up the cotton.
My first SS mesh wick was blech, my second one didn't last much longer. I got mad and went with the auto drip and liked it a lot.
Then I got a hold of about 6 inches of ekowool from the B&M. Did a mesh wick using 500 mesh, and sleeved it with the ekowool, then did a 3/2 coil of 30g. 1.3 ohms and vapes pretty nice. Ugly as sin though
You don't necessarily have to use SS mesh or even rope. I actually did a horizontal microcoil with a teeny little puff of cotton between the coil and the wick hole. RiP Trippers and others call that "auto dripping mode". Definitely don't leave it on its side if you do it though. When you vape, just tip it a bit toward you to fill up the cotton.
My first SS mesh wick was blech, my second one didn't last much longer. I got mad and went with the auto drip and liked it a lot.
Then I got a hold of about 6 inches of ekowool from the B&M. Did a mesh wick using 500 mesh, and sleeved it with the ekowool, then did a 3/2 coil of 30g. 1.3 ohms and vapes pretty nice. Ugly as sin though
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