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whats the rush ?
when you get it you will just want some thing else.

and you will be waiting and waiting and waiting.
it will never end (LOL)

That's why the teleporter would make it sooooo good. Now if I remember a statistic, based on current technology, it would take a cubic mile of CDs to store the data required to de-construct/re-construct a human being. Maybe if we start small, like with vaping supplies, it could become more practical. Food for thought, or is that fodder?
 
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That's why the teleporter would make it sooooo good. Now if I remember a statistic, based on current technology, it would take a cubic mile of CDs to store the data required to de-construct/re-construct a human being. Maybe if we start small, like with vaping supplies, it could become more practical. Food for thought, or is that fodder?

Just remember on star trek,,,some folks got stuck in the ether,if this happens you will never get your toys.

Larry
 

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Just remember on star trek,,,some folks got stuck in the ether,if this happens you will never get your toys.

Larry

Nah, it'll be insured, just like UPS, no problem at all. Besides that was in the early days of Star Trek, after Scotty got done it worked really well, even ship to planet at warp speed. Heck, I'd settle for warp speed shipping, although all things considered, USPS is doing fairly well, my package is one town over at the distribution center and will be here tomorrow! Not instant or even warp speed, but pretty fast for the 21st century and a truck.
 

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Based on my experience with solar lights, you'll need an array of solar panels on the order of a few hundred square feet. I think a fuel cell style would work, and the water produced could be used for additional vapor.

I don't know much about the science involved tbh. I do know someone who bought a solar powered phone charger though for when he was away at his cabin, he's off the grid. I don't know how well it works for him though. I've just googled them and they seem pretty small.

Maybe the people at SI could work something out :)

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It looks like somebody has beat us to it, they are already available I just googled:
'solar powered ecig pcc' and there's a bunch of them.
 
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That gives me an idea...

What about a solar powered PCC?
Done it. Too expensive for small production. Not that is costs too much on cash but in production level.

I posted this idea elsewhere on ECF; but how about a variable voltage auto battery whereuppon you could increase the voltage simply by drawing harder on the carto?

Would be sweet on a 78mm!

Can't be done that easy and the battery's size will increase. The airflow switch is a SWITCH and not an airflow meter which is huge btw it also contains the asic and a capacitor to control the on off etc.

What you can do is give commands on the asic by puffing two three four times to increase the voltage without buttons etc.
 

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Can't be done that easy and the battery's size will increase. The airflow switch is a SWITCH and not an airflow meter which is huge btw it also contains the asic and a capacitor to control the on off etc.

What you can do is give commands on the asic by puffing two three four times to increase the voltage without buttons etc.

I would think some kind of piezo electric material would be sensitive enough to detect the air pressure created by your draw. Since piezo electric materials generate current on pressure (or change shape when a current is applied to them) the output of it could be tied to a variable voltage regulator without taking up too much space. If a 78mm battery had to sacrifice a little mAh (even down to that roughly equivalent to a 65mm) I think it would be okay.

On the other hand "PuffCodes" could work too as long as there was some feed back that you'd entered the code you meant to.
 

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You can't fit all those inside, it will be a 780mm battery then , i've tried it. They simply don't fit.
It's not cost effective either.
the puffcodes thingy could only be done by changing the software inside the existing asic.

Existing LDO / switched mode regulators need a large number of parts to function correctly than means space and pcb. The existing asic only uses a small smd capacitor inside the sensor.
For feedback you can use the existing LED. It's already been used for that with blink codes.
 

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I don't know much about the science involved tbh. I do know someone who bought a solar powered phone charger though for when he was away at his cabin, he's off the grid. I don't know how well it works for him though. I've just googled them and they seem pretty small.

Maybe the people at SI could work something out :)

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It looks like somebody has beat us to it, they are already available I just googled:
'solar powered ecig pcc' and there's a bunch of them.


I just Googled it also and found one actually listed with no specs and not available for $55.00(US). Checking a few more links lead to opinions about how "kool" it is, how much you could save (maybve a few cents over the course of a few months), the fact that payment was by wire cable only and that it was "no longer available". Another link did lead to a YouTube video demo of one with multiple solar panels, home brewed, that apparently worked although there was no desciption of how well or how long it takes to charge a battery. It appeared to be almost a square foot of solar panel, to me, and apparently wouldn't work with a passthrough. That video also had a demo of a butane powered charger with a passthrough being used. He got a small puff of vapor from it, nothing like a normal battery, and went through a lot of "wow, what a strong hit" theatrics.

I have two small solar post lights on the posts for the gates on my driveway, solar cells about three inches square. They use one AA sized NiCAD each. I have to swap out batteries every two weeks or so and charge them on a wall charger to keep them lasting all night during the summer and every few days during the winter, and these are single, 600mah, NiCADs. Given the current demands of a PV and a typical user, you'd probably need a few square feet of solar panels to make it workable for real.

On the other hand, it could be workable with my "beer hat" vaping rig, battery on one side, bottle of liquid on the other, with tubing and wire down to the PV. I'd just have to use a "ten gallon" hat. A square foot of solar panel could be mounted on the top of the hat to supply a constant trickle charge to the battery or maybe even mount them around the brim. A chin strap would be necessary to hold everyhting in place though. Of course that battery would be a 6 volt, 2-4 amp hour or larger depending on how much modding is done to the PV, so even then, the solar charger would have a hard time keeping up. (Working furiously on drawings to file a copyright)
 

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I just Googled it also and found one actually listed with no specs and not available for $55.00(US). Checking a few more links lead to opinions about how "kool" it is, how much you could save (maybve a few cents over the course of a few months), the fact that payment was by wire cable only and that it was "no longer available". Another link did lead to a YouTube video demo of one with multiple solar panels, home brewed, that apparently worked although there was no desciption of how well or how long it takes to charge a battery. It appeared to be almost a square foot of solar panel, to me, and apparently wouldn't work with a passthrough. That video also had a demo of a butane powered charger with a passthrough being used. He got a small puff of vapor from it, nothing like a normal battery, and went through a lot of "wow, what a strong hit" theatrics.

I have two small solar post lights on the posts for the gates on my driveway, solar cells about three inches square. They use one AA sized NiCAD each. I have to swap out batteries every two weeks or so and charge them on a wall charger to keep them lasting all night during the summer and every few days during the winter, and these are single, 600mah, NiCADs. Given the current demands of a PV and a typical user, you'd probably need a few square feet of solar panels to make it workable for real.

On the other hand, it could be workable with my "beer hat" vaping rig, battery on one side, bottle of liquid on the other, with tubing and wire down to the PV. I'd just have to use a "ten gallon" hat. A square foot of solar panel could be mounted on the top of the hat to supply a constant trickle charge to the battery or maybe even mount them around the brim. A chin strap would be necessary to hold everyhting in place though. Of course that battery would be a 6 volt, 2-4 amp hour or larger depending on how much modding is done to the PV, so even then, the solar charger would have a hard time keeping up. (Working furiously on drawings to file a copyright)

So it's a no then :laugh:
 

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I've posted some time a go an ego solar case on the chit chat thread. New product
Just a case, it doesn't have a battery.
I already modified my slider pcc with solar.

Just how practical is it? Assuming that you'd want 100-120ma @ 4 volts or more just to charge a 65mm or a 78mm battery, a solar panel small enough to fit on a PCC case just won't have enough output to charge anything in a reasonable time, as in less than a day or two.
 

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Buhaha!
That is the catch, let me finish eating and i will explain.

While solar panels are attractive for both long term lowered expense and lower enviromental impact, they just are not yet practical. To be honest, I wonder just how environmentally friendly they are if the manufacturing process is considered as well. The only way they are "affordable" for use is through heavy subsidies. The same is true of wind power. I think a crank style charger would be the best, that way you get the cost and environmental savings as well as "fight obesity".
 
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OK my panel is rated 5V 130mA.
Let's say you want to charge a battery and you need 4.2V and 130mA, who cares?
I'm not using the solar to charge the 78mm battery but i'm using it to charge the PCC battery instead, it will keep it fully charged at full times.
There is another problem, since the pcc is not lighted directly at all times the panel has a lower output voltage on low lighting conditions, i used a buck boost converter and when the light is low i still get 5V out with a lower amperage off course.
5V is convenient because i'm feeding the usb input on the pcc's internal buck converter which is controlled by a PIC microcontroller. I'm avoiding charging the pcc's battery directly because that will confuse the microcontroller (the battery measurement).
It's a loss of some energy at low lighting conditions but it works. When it's fully sunny it works OK.
 
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