The Hangsen Thread

[JeremyR]

Uh, it is the original ry4 manufacturer. Hangsen created the original ry4.

3.3% should be good to start. 4% should be sufficient.

All the other ry4s people like out there are heavier and sweeter I think, than the original.

 

[JeremyR]

If Hangsen is using actual extract for their tobaccos then it's possible that different batches will have slight variation. I'm sure some resellers "step"on it but, again it just might be different batches.
I'm in the coffee business. Each crop from the same place grown in the same region must be roasted differently to produce a similar cup.
I'm just saying there's a LOT of variables affecting flavor when dealing with a plant and it's extracts.

I see the fruit flavors, candy, and so on being easy to reproduce consistently.

Oh I wanted to post +1.. You have a great point... Other natural extract products, like nutritional supplements, have a disclaimer that it can vary due to natural ingredients

 

[JeremyR]

I am vaping Red USA at 6%, purchased from VZ 18 months ago, and although the flavor is still good, I am getting a tiny tiny bit of a chemical flavor. This flavor persists regardless of how long I steep the juice or keep the bottle open. Has anyone noticed such a thing with the Red?

6% wth,that would kill me!!!

Try 3.33% or less...max 4%.. The flavor is potent I can only Imagine it at double the strength I use.

It has a certain flavor to it that can be off putting to some.. Especially if you mix it way stronger than you can handle.

Rember just because someone vapes it at 6 doesnt mean it will work for you at 6.

 

[Exchaner]

6% wth,that would kill me!!!

Try 3.33% or less...max 4%.. The flavor is potent I can only Imagine it at double the strength I use.

It has a certain flavor to it that can be off putting to some.. Especially if you mix it way stronger than you can handle.

Rember just because someone vapes it at 6 doesnt mean it will work for you at 6.

I usually go 3% with the Red but went up to 6% trying to somehow compensate for reducing my nicotine from 6mg to 4. I guess it doesn't work that way ......

 

[Exchaner]

My last batch was made from a hangsen red flavoring that was a year old and I tasted no chemical taste.

Just curious Danny, what % do you mix your Red?

 

[EddieAdams]

Sometimes less is more with flavorings. Lower percentages can allow subtle components in the flavoring shine especially with tobaccos. And each tobacco is it's own entity no matter where it's from or what manufacturer. If it's new, start at 1% and work up. Small 5ml batches and a dripper or dripping atomizer.

I will say IMHO and experience, USA RED is better at lower percentages as someone in this thread suggested and deserves the credit. Seriously try 1%...

 

[EddieAdams]

Uh, it is the original ry4 manufacturer. Hangsen created the original ry4.

3.3% should be good to start. 4% should be sufficient.

All the other ry4s people like out there are heavier and sweeter I think, than the original.

Actually no, from what I've gathered the flavorist that created the original ry4 was working for dekang at the time. He left dekang and brought his recipes with him to Hangsen or created Hangsen...forget which. It wasn't exact but, was very close to the dekang original from what I've read and dekang never really was able to reproduce the flavor. Little foggy but, that's the basics...

 

[denali_41]

If Hangsen is using actual extract for their tobaccos then it's possible that different batches will have slight variation..

they do ,if you dig around on their site you will the details and a pic of the machines they use for NETs

 

[dannyv45]

Just curious Danny, what % do you mix your Red?

4% red, 2% DNB and 2% virginia TA but I like strong tobacco flavor so I've done red as high as 7% as a stand alone.. it also needs steeping time

 

[oplholik]

Wassup with this HS RY4. Mixed up some to try by itself, and I went from 1.5% up to 4%., with stops along the way. Not getting much flavor out of it. I believe however that the one I'm using I got from ecx some time ago. It's very light in color.
In the pics, the three, starting from the right all purchased from ecx, vary in darkness of color. The one on the far left is the darkest, and recently purchased from BCV. Well I guess that answers my question. Problem is, I have several mixes I use that ecx stuff in, now I am going to have play around with them using the BCV HS. Grrr.

 

[EddieAdams]

Do me a favor and post a pic of the lighter colored ones in the PET bottles of the two on the left. Just curious....

I think the bottle material makes them look lighter in color than they are and the width of the largest bottle on the left makes it appear darker.

 

[oplholik]

I guess it's kinda hard to tell in the pic, but if the bottle on the right had more in it, it may be close in color to the one on it's left. The two bottles on the right are very close in taste, while the one on the left end is noticeably stronger to the taste.
The one on the left end is very similar in taste to the the bottle from BCV.
I'm gonna keep the darker colored bottle, and pitch the other.

 

[denali_41]

btw HS Arabic and saltwater [ocean] don't taste very good when mixed ...yuckkkkkkkkkk

i am a commercial fisherman and out on the salt most every day this time of year

 

[JeremyR]

Actually no, from what I've gathered the flavorist that created the original ry4 was working for dekang at the time. He left dekang and brought his recipes with him to Hangsen or created Hangsen...forget which. It wasn't exact but, was very close to the dekang original from what I've read and dekang never really was able to reproduce the flavor. Little foggy but, that's the basics...

It can be debated all day, and I'm not really trying to argue , the exact first ry4 is probably lost.

But Mr. Yao was there ("he was the one") and had hand in the creation of the ruyan range 1-4... So not actually the hangsen company but the head of this company had first hand in ry4's actual creation... And the first mass produced ejuice to market.

Further it's not that hard to find that hangsen CEO / creator - Jide Yao - essentially ran and started both dekang and boge.... with his other buddies help I'm sure, and then decided to part ways and form his own: hangsen.

Google - Jide Yao dekang

You can find various old legal documents from both companies stating him, jide yao, as the owner/CEO.

Hangsen claim
"
. Our CEO is the first pioneer in E-liquid research and development. He invented the first recipe of E-liquid in 2004 and built the foundation of PG/VG combination in the E-liquid. In addition, their research and engineering teams have been in the industry since the first electronic cigarette emerged and have been involved in all major changes in the technology."

 

[Vandal]

I'm wanting to try the various Hangsen RY versions (and perhaps the Whisky) but I'm not seeing them at Bull City. I did stumble across the buyhangsen site, but after some searching, I am unclear if it's okay to purchase through them.

I haven't tried many tobacco flavors, but I know I can't stand any with any nuttiness to them. Just looking for mild tobacco with a maybe a little sweetness- no vanilla or caramel or cherry or any other undertones. Am I on the right track with the RYs?

 

[oplholik]

The HS RY4 on it's own is not what I was expecting at all. To me, it taste terrible. Settled on 1.5%, testing on a BB from altsmoke, with a igo-s, with a 1.35Ω coil. Added a little FA caramel, and that helped, now just added a little Fa chocolate, and will try that.
For the last 3 years I have been getting Hangsen RY4 premixed juice from Madvapes, and that I like, so I was trying the RY4 flavor by itself, to compare.

 

[Exchaner]

I'm wanting to try the various Hangsen RY versions (and perhaps the Whisky) but I'm not seeing them at Bull City. I did stumble across the buyhangsen site, but after some searching, I am unclear if it's okay to purchase through them.

I haven't tried many tobacco flavors, but I know I can't stand any with any nuttiness to them. Just looking for mild tobacco with a maybe a little sweetness- no vanilla or caramel or cherry or any other undertones. Am I on the right track with the RYs?

These are the tobacco flavors that I have tried without any nuttiness : RY1, Red USA, HS Tobacco Flavor.

 

[dannyv45]

View attachment 475103 View attachment 475104 Wassup with this HS RY4. Mixed up some to try by itself, and I went from 1.5% up to 4%., with stops along the way. Not getting much flavor out of it. I believe however that the one I'm using I got from ecx some time ago. It's very light in color.
In the pics, the three, starting from the right all purchased from ecx, vary in darkness of color. The one on the far left is the darkest, and recently purchased from BCV. Well I guess that answers my question. Problem is, I have several mixes I use that ecx stuff in, now I am going to have play around with them using the BCV HS. Grrr.

The bottle on the left is the real deal the others not so much. It's no surprise the original is so much stronger. The white cap is a bit confusing there normally green with a steel needle tip dripper. The bottle labeling looks authentic though.

 

[JeremyR]

I'm wanting to try the various Hangsen RY versions (and perhaps the Whisky) but I'm not seeing them at Bull City. I did stumble across the buyhangsen site, but after some searching, I am unclear if it's okay to purchase through them.

I haven't tried many tobacco flavors, but I know I can't stand any with any nuttiness to them. Just looking for mild tobacco with a maybe a little sweetness- no vanilla or caramel or cherry or any other undertones. Am I on the right track with the RYs?

Only the ry1 would fit that bill. The rest of the Rys are undertone blends.

If you don't want any of the undertones mentioned. I can also recommend.

Arabic , 2.5-3.5% spicy tobacco, heavy flavor, great th.

Cohiba, 3-4% straight light tobacco flavoring with slight woody cigar tones and aftertaste.

Ry1, 3-4% straight light tobacco

Indian, 3-4% tobacco with subtle undertones. Don't think any that your speaking of.

I haven't tried it but Flue Cured may be up your alley too. Somewhat sweet tobacco.

 

[oplholik]

I received these bottles from BCV yesterday, and they are the same as the ones I received a couple weeks ago.