The Hangsen Thread

[oplholik]

Ahh, see what you mean, I didn't check the Hangsen liquids, just the nic.

RTS HS Usa Mix -10ml - $5.85, at BCV $3.95
RTS HS Desert Ship 10ml - same difference.
RTS HS Desert Ship 30ml - $13.75 at BCV, 50ml is $14.75.

 

[oplholik]

I saw your post there, be interesting to see what his reply is.

 

[JeremyR]

Yeah hopefully its was nice enough to draw an insightful response.

 

[oplholik]

Yeah hopefully its was nice enough to draw an insightful response.

Yeah, hopefully.

 

[JeremyR]

Well, this is not good.

I looked back at my old orders and I paid the same price for a 30ml arabic about a year ago.. So that price did not increase!

I heard the 120 went up in price but I don't know, I never ordered one. So now I dont have a good point.

I was trying to get answers for others questioning the 120ml price I guess.

May need to Ninja edit that post now..

 

[Alter]

Back in March 2015 I bought a 120 Desert Ship for 36.95 and now when I look its now 47.95. The math says I get 30 extra mls from BullCity (14.75x3) for 3 bucks cheaper and not rebottled but factory sealed 50 ml jugs.

 

[JeremyR]

Thanks for clarifying that... Yep that is the point.

The 30ml price however did not change. Only the 120 it seems. Maybe it has to do with frequent individual restocking costs.

Why rts because he has almost all the hs flavors. More than anyone in the US, and I've always been pleased with thier service all around. My next order of arabic is going to be with rts, because I preferred it side by side bcv.

 

[JD1]

..... My next order of arabic is going to be with rts, because I preferred it side by side bcv.

Jeremy, I must of missed something. Surely the rts isn't fresher and stronger than the bcv is it?

 

[JeremyR]

No I don't believe so.
Stronger yes, I would have to say at this point imo it is in this case. It could be that with arabic the aging of the flavoring has improved it, over the ripe fresh flavors from bcv.

You know im quite the connoisseur of arabic for two years.. So my taste memory goes to the old days maybe... I get a fuller flavor that I've come to love over the years, the bcv just isn't that deep in comparision. I dont think weve ever had it this fresh before in the us.. Maybe.. I've never let a mix steep more than 4 weeks the rts is better and sooner to me.

I'll see how the next rts batch is. I'm vaping a 250ml mix of factory sealed from bcv right now. I've had both for 6+ months and make 250 ml at a time each month. I switch between the two each time and thats how I decided for sure.

It may only be tobaccos, this flavor, or me.. But that's my story.

 

[JD1]

Yeal, I guess it could be steeping. I guess it could be that Hangsen ships their bulk containers a little stronger, or it could be a difference in the machines or all of the above. Side by side testing is proof something is going on though. Have you tried mixing the bcv at 4% or somewhere around there?

 

[JeremyR]

I believe it's purely the freshness. Its literally like 1-2 mo old sometimes direct from bcv.

Rts is aged more and also been exposed to more air. In a way pre-steeped maybe. For the arabic it works fine, can't speak for others.

I think the bcv is finally starting to come around it seems, its starting to deepen. Just takes longer probably. Its at 5 weeks now. About like RTS at 2 maybe .. If

Oh yes I had posted before that I had better results at a higher percentage with factory sealed... I did once and it was better.. So its possible bulk it is a little more concentrated, can't say.

I'm of the belief that if a flavor isn't good at 1 ml to 30ml (3.33%) its not worth my time.

i should have ordered last week on bf sales.

I will see how it compares with another batch from rts soon. The bcv 50ml factory bottle is about half way down, so its been aging about 6 months and I shake it well to bubble it in hopes of oxidizing it. . Will see how the next rts batch compares to this.

 

[dannyv45]

Flavoring as it ages will take on the same effect as a mixed juice as it ages, just not as drastic. You notice flavor changes to mixed e-juice over time some will get weaker and some will get stronger. The same happens to flavoring over time. You will not notice it as much with synthetic flavorings as you will with flavoring that contain organic elements such as Hangsen that have real tobacco alkaloids in it. In the case of Hangsen I find that most of the tobacco flavors get deeper and richer over time. Some of my hangsens are over a year old and the difference between fresh and old are pretty noticeable. I prefer older hangsen over fresher. The funny thing is there is no color change in older flavoring. I would expect it to get darker and it does not.....Go figure. This was one of the benefits when buyhangsen.com was going out of business. There stock at the time of the sale were almost a year past the expiration date and I took full advantage of it and really stocked up on there 50ml bottles. Best thing I ever did.

 

[JeremyR]

Arabic gets stronger then in that case.

 

[dannyv45]

That one is not one of my favorites but you are correct.

 

[nostradadus]

Arabic gets stronger

I'm rapidly becoming a fan of the HS Arabic; it goes really great with the HS Beer. My next experiment/mix with the Arabic will include a bit of INW Smoke & Prunes or FA Black Fire. I find the Arabic on the sweet side, so perhaps something to knock that down a bit?

 

[JeremyR]

Beer huh... Wow who would have thought!!

Glad its becoming a rising star for you!

I don't know, I get no sweetness from arabic I get sweetness from many others though. And do not like sweetness. So the spice must balance it on my palate.

Smoke and prunes should be way sweeter than arabic.(never tried)

Yep arabic grows on you and then nothing can compare. (If you like what you taste)

Arabic loves high wattage.
You may be using a lower power and your tasting the sweetness more than me. I use 28g single coil, 8-9 wraps at ~ 40w and lung hits. (=80w dual)The lung hit changes the flavor a lot over mtl or mouth hits. It hits the taste buds on the back of the tounge rather than the front and middle. Possibly bypassing the sweet receptors for me.. Not sure.

What percentage do mix it at?..

 

[nostradadus]

Beer huh... Wow who would have thought!!

I've never gone past 4% with the Arabic yet. But, here's the beer recipe.....

HS Arabic 3.5%
HS Beer 2%
FA Honey 1%
FA Shade 1%

40pg/60vg
6mg nic

We vape coil set ups much the same, however, I rarely get over 50 watts.

 

[sketchness]

I too taste a distinct sweetness with Arabic. Like a maple/brown sugar kind of sweetness. And I lung hit dual coils .5ohm at 50 watts.

It also has a strong throat hit and a spice type undertone. Sometimes it almost tastes like peanut butter to me. Great stuff really like it mixed at 4% max vg 6mg.

 

[nostradadus]

.....a few review notes on some new Hangsen tobacco flavors I've tested recently.

Parmal:
Very light and airy tobacco with faint notes of fresh fruit; cool in nature, with no bite or ashy notes. Based on a Pall Mall cigarette. I never smoked Pall Mall, but I would have in a pinch if they tasted as nice as this liquid! For more throat hit, use a little DNB or tobacco absolute in the mix. Mixed at 5%, but wanted a bit more.

Turkish Blended:
Finally, a Turkish tobacco liquid that can be an all day vape. Similar to taste to a filtered Camel Light cigarette, but needs a bit of tobacco absolute or DNB in the mix for throat hit. Other users say 7% to 12% in the mix; this being the only down side to the liquid. Having mixed it at 5%, I can see why people are saying mix at a higher percentage. However, since this liquid is somewhat NET in creation, this is to be expected.

RY1:

Nice light version of the RY family. Not at all heavy with caramel and vanilla. Wouldn't say non de script, but it is a very light tobacco flavor in the Virginia line. Needs to be the highest percentage in the mix for it to be perceived. Tested at 5%; good but wanted more flavor.

Highway:

555 take off.....Nutty, slight sweet with caramel, woody and a bit earthy. Not bitter or chemical tasting. Tested at 5% and was tasty, but wanted more flavor.

Elder Captain:

Light smooth pipe tobacco flavor with a hint of fruit; perhaps I'm picking up on a white grape note. Slight cedar, musty and leathery quality. No harsh notes at all. Make it the high percentage in the mix or the flavor of the tobacco will be hidden. Tested at 5%, very nice.

Hava:

Tastes of mature tobacco leaves (seco); woody, slightly musty and lightly sweet with a dry finish. No overpowering aroma comes with this tobacco. It will make a great addition tobacco for mixes that need a little more depth in the mouthfeel area. Tested at 5%; mixes will use a bit less.

Cuba:

This is NOT your spicy, dark, sharp Cuban cigar flavored liquid. Many people think that's what a Cuban is all about....it's not. This Cuban is all about the smooth, mellow, mature aged leaf. There's nothing that bites in the bottle. This liquid will blend nicely with other tobaccos of like kind, for a fine smooth cigar vape. There is no ash quality with this liquid, so the addition of a tobacco absolute is suggested, should you wish to have an ashy finish. Tested great at 5%.

Arabic:

Super nice complex tobacco! Sweet as is, no need to sweeten; taste dark molasses with hints of caramel, leather, plum and honey; nice slight bitter after taste. Tested at 5%, very good! Probably will mix this below 4%. This will go great with cocoa, coffee, whiskey, rum, etc.

 

[JeremyR]

Arabic:

Super nice complex tobacco! Sweet as is, no need to sweeten; taste dark molasses with hints of caramel, leather, plum and honey; nice slight bitter after taste. Tested at 5%, very good! Probably will mix this below 4%. This will go great with cocoa, coffee, whiskey, rum, etc

Really great mini reviews man thanks.

I just don't get where your coming up with those components. Lol. I can post a post I have written up about authentic arabic tobacco...

Every one listed there, that I have, I mix at 3.33%. I find with hangsens just .1% makes a difference. But my receptors may be tuned differently. The odd thing is I notice small differences of .1% in the mix but nothing that your mentioning.