The "JBox" Issue

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zapped

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What's the alternative? You know he's not going to make 27 orders in a month and he's obviously not independently wealthy or he wouldn't be in this fix so he can't refund everyone immediately.

Alternative would have been to do what he said he was going to do in the first place :) Do you honestly expect members of the community to have any sympathy or compassion for him after hes lied to them, purposely avoided them, and used them for what amounts to an interest free loan of over 6k?

No thank you.....I have plenty of sympathy for those affected but not one bit for this d-bag and thats not likely to change until everyone either gets their money back or their products.

Con artists make their living off the kindness of others and if youve taken the time to read the Chopperguys thread you'll start to see some frightening similarities. People called for moderation there as well and said to give him some time and that didnt work out so well.
 
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Alternative would have been to do what he said he was going to do in the first place :) Do you honestly expect members of the community to have any sympathy or compassion after hes lied to them and purposely avoided them?

No thank you.....I have plenty of sympathy for those affected but not one bit for this d-bag and thats not likely to change until everyone either gets their money back or their products.

Con artists make their living off the kindness of others and if youve taken the time to read the Chopperguys thread you'll start to see some frightening similarities. People called for moderation there as well and said to give him some time and that didnt work out so well.

I don't know who your arguing with or lecturing, it's not me.

Edit: adding - I am not defending him.
 
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Con artists make their living off the kindness of others and if youve taken the time to read the Chopperguys thread you'll start to see some frightening similarities. People called for moderation there as well and said to give him some time and that didnt work out so well.
Did you notice the similarity of Jason's letter to Chopper's letter. Interesting stuff.
 

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Did you notice the similarity of Jason's letter to Chopper's letter. Interesting stuff.

I certainly did.And thats the point Im trying to make here. At this point I dont think anyone really cares about Jasons problems as he's the one who got himself into this mess.

Just like the Chopperguys thread, the only thing this guy seems to genuinely respond to is the threat of legal action from a lot of people. Giving him the benefit of the doubt, feeling sorry for him and giving him more time isnt likely to produce results.

If I had a mod coming from him at this point Id be furious and seriously doubtful about the quality of the finished product to boot.

The only way were going to stop this kind of thing from happening is to have a zero tolerance policy for it. That means zero tolerance for delays, zero tolerance for excuses, zero sympathy whatsoever because if you give a thief wiggle room theyre going to find a way out one way or another.

Thats why they suggested everyone demand a refund on the show last night.
 
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The most likely explanation for all this is that he started out with good intentions and he let things deteriorate into this. He does not strike me as a very responsible adult.

We're talking about less than 300.00 paid by people who should have known better, did know better, but took a calculated risk on something they really never needed.
 

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Why is that?

Apparently Zapped, my post may have led you and others to think I was defending this persons actions. I don't. I just really hope that this can somehow get worked out where the people that paid for a mod get what they paid for. Ideally everyone gets their money or mod right away. If that doesn't happen, maybe he can chip away at the list and keep communicating with everyone.

It's really a bad situation.
 

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Apparently Zapped, my post may have led you and others to think I was defending this persons actions. I don't. I just really hope that this can somehow get worked out where the people that paid for a mod get what they paid for. Ideally everyone gets their money or mod right away. If that doesn't happen, maybe he can chip away at the list and keep communicating with everyone.

It's really a bad situation.

I agree with ya and I hope thats the very least that this guy does to make it right for everyone involved. Thanks for the clarification as well cause it was looking that way from my end but its all good :)
 

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This thing is a vanity item. The people who paid for these can wait if they have to.

I'm not vain, I'm just sexy and I know it. :rickroll: Has anyone ever waited when they didn't 'have' to? :D

I do feel badly for anyone that paid for a product they didn't get.

Yet. :)

At this point I don't think anyone really cares about Jason's problems as he's the one who got himself into this mess

I never cared about Jason's problems from the beginning, still don't. But I can empathize.
 
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