Congrats! Looks good so far. Wish I could say more for my scenario. It looks like mine is going in the opposite direction.
The "JBox" Issue
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Congrats! Looks good so far. Wish I could say more for my scenario. It looks like mine is going in the opposite direction.
jkmtwo and others. I have been lurking in this thread for since the begining but not having a horse in this race I didn't think there was much I could say. I do want to say jkmtwo I dont blame you and the others at all. I was originally on the band wagon of well he's an idiot of a business man but hes not a scammer. At this point I dont think there is any defense for Jason. I really think he ripped everyone off and I am ashamed that this happend within our community. If this was one of those mall cigalike places back in the beginning it would not surprise me but this surprises me and saddens me. I am sorry this happend to everyone but I also dont think this was a misunderstanding. If the house is on fire you cant say maybe their just barbecuing.
In additon he's busy gaming . Search "jboyse" and look at the results.
People in bankruptcy will often preserve minimal assets to continue living. That is the point of bankruptcy settlements for the one who was wiped out. If he has a bankruptcy settlement, you guys will never get your money back unless Pay Pal and the other processors cover you.
A decent person would communicate that he is bankrupt to all the buyers, so they can move on too.
A decent person would communicate that he is bankrupt to all the buyers, so they can move on too.
mikejm:8519840 said:
The problem for him if he tries to sweep this in the bankrupcy pile of bills we have a case for out right fraud. And from my understanding, he would be looking at jail time, this was done accross state lines.
This is how the story would look, he took our money, and told us he bought the materials to do the job, never did the job, then filed bankruptcy to get out from under the money he owes us in refund for not doing the job, the 1st question that needs to be asked is that if you bought the materials, do the job so you no longer owe the money, if you never bought the materials, then you committed fraud.
Technically he doesn't owe us money, he owes us a product.
Yeah, nut I can see how a person spiraling into bankruptcy would panic pay bills and then be unable to fulfill other commitments. When the wolves are at the door the wolves are at the door. I'm sure it happens a lot.
I was thinking about this stuff this week. I think you are right about deposits. My other thought is that, this biz is not different from any other.......you simply DO NOT start a business that is under-capitalized. It is the surest way to ruin.
all the classic business advice applies. There are many good newbie books on how to start a biz. Every single one of them will discuss under-capitalization, having enough funds to get you thru a year, etc.
There's a reason for this.
In a world of anxious people who "want it now" and "want it first", those rules are being compromised. In which case, I'd say there's inherent risk involved then, both for the business owner and the customers. Risk must be assumed by someone.
This is just business 101----
It kinda reminds me of these young kids who buy a house, and then go thousands and thousands of dollars into debt to fill it up. Back in the day, we sat on lawn chairs in the living room, and went to yard sales, because just paying a mortgage was hard enough, and we got stuff little by little as it became available.
I guess I believe in "building slowly". Seems like a better, stronger foundation.
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mikejm:8520247 said:
Here's where the noose tightens though, HE has said on multiple occasions that he has done much of the work, to a judge this will stink of someone buying time until the clock runs out and people can't get a refund through their credit card company.
Add to that the spineless way he has hidden himself under a rock. No communication whatsoever. I don't care who you are, what you are going through, the only reason you do that is if you have no intention of doing what you promised. That is the nail in the coffin, all con men everywhere have this one thing in common, when their con has exhausted itself, they get out of dodge.
At this point, Jason is nothing more than a con man. It litterally wouldn't surprise me to find out that he's been manipulating little old ladies out of their checks.
Yep, he was probably hemorrhaging cash and then lying about it to everyone and hiding out. The Bernie Ebbers of Gilbert.
This is very true. However in order to prove fraud in a bankruptcy case you need to show cause that he intended to commit fraud against you. A complaint to pay pal, your cc company or the IC3 or a lawsuit in my opinion would establish that. I would echo the sentiment of others that everyone should make a complaint of some sort. Otherwise his defense could be sorry I had good intentions but I invested their money to build their device and I hit unforeseen circumstances. That could be good enough to win at a bankruptcy hearing.
drewbalicious:8524705 said:
Hes only been a member since 30 days ago?
He's got money for a Xbox, but can't get me my JBox?
He logs into Xim3 everyday. Doesn't reply to pm's too.
http://www.xim3.com/community/index.php?action=profile;u=8236
http://www.xim3.com/community/index.php?action=profile;u=8236
lol.. this one made me laugh
And please dont think im laughing at the situation you are all in, its just funny to see a meme has been created because of this.
If that is him on that gaming website this is rather an interesting post he made...
"I did apply but never got back a response, I used to RC test back when XIM3 came out but I have been out of the country the last year so havent had a chance to play xbox much but now I am home."
"I did apply but never got back a response, I used to RC test back when XIM3 came out but I have been out of the country the last year so havent had a chance to play xbox much but now I am home."
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