The Lurker Thread

[oldbikeguy]

From Montanan fish and game Dept.


In light of the rising frequency of human/grizzly bear confrontations, the Montana Department of Fish and Game is advising hikers, hunters, and fishermen to take extra precautions and be alert for bears while in the field. …We advise that outdoorsmen wear small bells on their clothing so as not to startle bears that aren’t expecting them, and to carry pepper spray with them in case of an encounter….


It is also a good idea to watch out for fresh signs of bear activity. Outdoorsmen should recognize the difference between black bear and grizzly bear droppings. Black bear droppings are smaller and contain lots of berries and fur. Grizzly bear droppings have little bells in it and smell like pepper.

 

[LoriP1702]

Depends on where he is,I've had a few guides from up north tell me the just take care of problemed bears and don't say anything

He's S, Ketchikan area. Yes Bay Lodge.

From Montanan fish and game Dept.


In light of the rising frequency of human/grizzly bear confrontations, the Montana Department of Fish and Game is advising hikers, hunters, and fishermen to take extra precautions and be alert for bears while in the field. …We advise that outdoorsmen wear small bells on their clothing so as not to startle bears that aren’t expecting them, and to carry pepper spray with them in case of an encounter….


It is also a good idea to watch out for fresh signs of bear activity. Outdoorsmen should recognize the difference between black bear and grizzly bear droppings. Black bear droppings are smaller and contain lots of berries and fur. Grizzly bear droppings have little bells in it and smell like pepper.

Oh wow.
You know, I think he mentioned pepper spray maybe. But I don't remember if they carry it or don't carry it. I'll ask next time I talk to him.

He doesn't go until June 6th this year. He said the Nat'l Park isn't opening until later this year. Some of where they go is in the Nat'l Pk. there.

 

[LoriP1702]

Here...he's Capt. Jeff Davis under "staff"
Yes Bay Lodge

 

[oldbikeguy]

Here...he's Capt. Jeff Davis under "staff"
Yes Bay Lodge

I could live there

Construction of the lodge building began in the mid-1950’s, originally to be used as a casino and cat house

 

[LoriP1702]

I could live there

Construction of the lodge building began in the mid-1950’s, originally to be used as a casino and cat house

Yep. He enjoys re-telling that too.
He said most any business WAS up there way back then. Even if there was another business, that the "cat" houses were everywhere, so he's been told.
Bet those were some AWESOME "cats" too.

 

[LoriP1702]

He could live there too. The winter weather there isn't too bad either.
He said the biting flies are MISERABLE.

 

[LoriP1702]

This is where he lives Oct. - May.
This is his (mentor) buddies site, Jeff actually did the website for him.
They filmed the video too. Be sure to watch it...full screen is best.
Chokoloskee Island Charters | Everglades National Park

 

[LoriP1702]

...and yes, I explained to him about using that music, but he said he'd take if down if he gets a "cease and desist" letter. He didn't think Bucky would come after him.

 

[oldbikeguy]

He could live there too. The winter weather there isn't too bad either.
He said the biting flies are MISERABLE.

Yup black flies,ask him how big the mosquitoes get up there sometime

 

[LoriP1702]

Yup black flies,ask him how big the mosquitoes get up there sometime

Those too. He's lived in the S for so long, and also S. Fl. that those don't seem to bother him as much as the black flies.
There's a couple areas where he takes people on the Eco tours around Chokoloskee that he said the mosquitoes are REALLY bad.
He took us to an island in the mangroves that was originally inhabited, way back, years ago, but no one lives there now, it was crazy (the mosquitoes).
He said it wasn't too bad. I said whatever, I'm going back to the boat.
They just immediately swarmed ya.

 

[LoriP1702]

...all you could hear was them buzzing right at your ear.

 

[oldbikeguy]

...all you could hear was them buzzing right at your ear.

All they wanted was a small donation

 

[Sara Love]

Lol's.
Wasn't my proudest moment, but a girl's got to do what a girl's got to do.
Rural two lane highway, had come off a red light, morning commute, so fairly heavy traffic.
We'd all just gotten up to top speed. I often end up behind the bus, so I'm familiar with the stops.
I was the first car behind the bus, guy behind me was pulling a loaded trailer, several other cars behind him.
We're going along, and I look to the left thinking...she just missed that kid on her stop.
I look back, and BRAKE LIGHTS...not just slowing, but making a FULL stop, quite a ways past the kid.
I look in my rearview, guy with the trailer is NOT going to get stopped in time.
I actually would have, but he was going to smack me for SURE...every other car behind him was doing the jog as well...so at the last minute, I just went around. It was a flat shoulder, no kids were in danger, she hadn't even completely stopped...kid waiting for the bus was on the left, a WAYS back.
Dumb gal should have turned around and gone and collected him.

You had a guardian angel watching out for you that day, for sure. Absolutely she should have turned around smh. Dangerous for everyone involved.

 

[LoriP1702]

All they wanted was a small donation

...no kidding!!

 

[LoriP1702]

You had a guardian angel watching out for you that day, for sure. Absolutely she should have turned around smh. Dangerous for everyone involved.

I'm sure every child on that bus ate the seat in front of them unless they were strapped in.
Crazy driver.
It's also a great reminder that you *think* you're traveling at a generally safe distance, until the person ahead doesn't just brake, but decides to stop on a dime.
I was on a school bus that a pick up truck rear ended, buses are built of cast iron.
You do not want to rear end one.

 

[LoriP1702]

I think she knew she was in the wrong, or she'd have turned me in for passing her.
In IL it's an automatic 30 day suspension. I was willing to take that risk to avoid being a pancake.

 

[Sara Love]

Yeah I bet, especially with a truck and trailer behind you.

The first-time fine for illegally passing a school bus here in NY is a $250 to $400 fine, 5 points on your license, and/or possibly 30 days in jail.

 

[Sara Love]

Lunch is over. Enjoy the rest of your afternoon Lori and lurkers.

 

[LoriP1702]

Yeah I bet, especially with a truck and trailer behind you.

The first-time fine for illegally passing a school bus here in NY is a $250 to $400 fine, 5 points on your license, and/or possibly 30 days in jail.

I'm sure there's a fine, there's always a fine. Jail prob depends on the situation.
We don't do points here in IL. Three moving violations in a year and you lose your license.

She didn't even get the blinking lights on, that was a total after thought for her.
People were already scattered along the shoulder, I looked up in my rearview and she'd just then turned on her blinking lights.
Oh well, everyone survived.
At the next light down the road, I signaled to the guy who'd been behind me with the trailer, pointed at him and made the OK sign.
He gave me the thumbs up. and a big grin.

 

[Sir Kadly]

From Montanan fish and game Dept.


In light of the rising frequency of human/grizzly bear confrontations, the Montana Department of Fish and Game is advising hikers, hunters, and fishermen to take extra precautions and be alert for bears while in the field. …We advise that outdoorsmen wear small bells on their clothing so as not to startle bears that aren’t expecting them, and to carry pepper spray with them in case of an encounter….


It is also a good idea to watch out for fresh signs of bear activity. Outdoorsmen should recognize the difference between black bear and grizzly bear droppings. Black bear droppings are smaller and contain lots of berries and fur. Grizzly bear droppings have little bells in it and smell like pepper.