Here it 'tis, after about 400ml of DIY stuff with EM, chocolate, caramel cappuccino and other sludgers. 28 gauge zivipf, eight wraps on a 3mm mandrel, rayon wick.
that's a helluva lot of gunk!!Titanium wire, vaping and safety
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that's a helluva lot of gunk!!
It looks worse than it actually was. It was still putting out plenty of vapor and flavor, but I got "antsy" and wanted to do a rebuild.
I've seen worse.Here it 'tis, after about 400ml of DIY stuff with EM, chocolate, caramel cappuccino and other sludgers. 28 gauge zivipf, eight wraps on a 3mm mandrel, rayon wick.
Imagine a wick disappearing and a coil breaking in half by just touching it... Lightly with a finger! Real story.
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I'm around 250-300ml before I rewick, but that's with lightly cleaning the coil with a cotton swab to remove visible gunk, usually between every refill. I don't know if it's mental, me being OCD or what, but it seems like the flavor has become too muted and changed. I just have to clean it and rewick!!
I rinsed it, right after taking that shot, and the wicks came out clean and white. That's a Fogger V6 if anyone is curious.
Well with my extensive testing, hand to mouth. Unkamen 26 and Crazy Wire 26. I built 3 coils yesterday all 5 wrap 3mm spaced wicked exactly the same. So far the taste is excellent with both the vapor seems a little thicker with the Unk and it also seems to use a little more juice. The resistance is slightly lower with the Unk but they both seem to work great. I am using them all in STM's on SXM's at 265F 13J, Temp seems to hit faster with the CW maybe1-2sec. I haven't cleaned any yet so not sure about the etching in the Unk from acid wash but both vape great. Oh and I forgot the BBQ taste with Unk and Fish and Chips with CW. LOL Oh and I think the Unk has a better flavor at 260F
Thats what I was thinking too. I'm at 30J, 425F and it's a pretty cool vape.
I'm assuming he hasn't applied (or isn't using) the Titanium update for the SXM? And therefore 265°F / 130°C is only a bit low. I usually ran Titanium at 140°C on my pre-upgrade Yihis, but sometimes 135°C.
Boy oh boy, Legs should mention that when he posts. I thought he was vaping just the fumes of his ejuice.
I have the Ti update but don't care for it. If I use Ti mode have to run at 480F NI200 mode 265 is pretty much the same. Takes the same power to hit temp in either mode.. The Ti mode is as far off one way as the Ni mode is the other. I thought you guys would figure that out. I have the update. Either mode and temp will hit temp with 13-14J so I figure they are about the same temp. Should be around 390F which is where I run my nickel at although I really don't use it anymore since I tried Ti coils are .26 with Unk and .28 with CWWow, my mind boggles at how low you set your temperature.
Titanium spool summary: "Authentic Vaper Tech Titanium A1"
Spool and packaging:
Label seen is on both faces of the spool.
Spool attachment method - hole to the face of spool:
Requires peeling-back/removing the label on that face, but there are labels on both faces.
Cleanliness:
Thickness (26G):
Springiness:
Finish:
Spool and packaging:
Label seen is on both faces of the spool.
Spool attachment method - hole to the face of spool:
Requires peeling-back/removing the label on that face, but there are labels on both faces.
Cleanliness:
Graphite present. At most, same level of graphite as Stealth Vape and Crazy Wire, possibly fractionally less, but definitely requires cleaning.
Thickness (26G):
Callipers varying between 0.40 - 0.41mm, which is correct for 0.405mm 26G
Springiness:
3.0mm Kuro rod, coil expands to 3.27mm = 9% Spring Factor
Compares to: 8.3% Stealth Vape, 8.6% Unkamen, 10% Crazy Wire, 10% 3FVape
Compares to: 8.3% Stealth Vape, 8.6% Unkamen, 10% Crazy Wire, 10% 3FVape
Finish:
Shiny (like all except Unkamen)
Well I will say this about the Unk it definately puts out more vapor then CW but at a cost. My tank with CW is just starting on the 2nd one with the Unk I am almost to the bottom of my 3rd both tanks that I have it on. I do like the heavy vapor though.
Hmm... I wouldn't think it would matter at first blush, but perhaps the rough surface is playing a strong role in surface tension, and allows new liquid in the wick to bond to it much faster as it is vaporizing. Kinda makes sense! Just reminds me how little we really understand about all this stuff.
You have a good point. Texture does affect wettability so a bit rougher surface might help keep a hot coil pumping in more liquid.
I've noticed that a little bit of "gunk" on a wire often seems to improve both vapor production and flavor. That might be a "roughness factor" too? Of course too much deposit on the coil begins to affect heat transfer and things fall off the cliff. I seem to like my coils to be in used condition but just not too used.
I have a hard time relating more or less vapor etc. to the wire alone though because my experience with watching temperature during a puff with the DNA 200 and various setups tells me that the wick is just about the most important factor in the whole vaping experience once different wires are setup to their "optimum" power conditions.
Duane
Wow, my mind boggles at how low you set your temperature.
Lol me too. I just tried to put my nickel build at that temp and can't get any vapor out of it at all. I don't get vapor until about 350F even at 50J.
EDIT: Just saw his reply. He's using the nickel TCR for Ti. Makes sense when I take that into account.
Absolutely, and I'd want to add that small variations from wick to wick have a disproportionally large impact. I happen to have an "ideal" wick right now that just keeps on working, whereas the two previous ones (same coil/device/juice/power/temp) only performed so-so. (Using rayon FWIW)
Haha... Hi Dr. Ruckle. I learn something new every day. Wettability? At first, I smelled the pompatus of a nonce but I googled it. Lo & Behold, 'Tis indeed a proper descriptor. And of course, a light bulb lit. Being an avid 510 drip atty fan, I could never understand why it would take a little while for the atty to "break in", delivering better results after some use. Gunk. Retention and wettability. I suggest we henceforth call that condition on the curve of where a coil reaches its' peak ability to vaporize liquid the "Pizmotality".
"just when my coil reached pizmotality, it POPPED!"Has your collaboration with Pedro on dry burning coils shed any new light on that subject? Sheesh, at that time it was still only about Kanthal. Now we have Ti, Ni, SS... Tough to find answers when the goal post keeps moving,eh?
Haha... Hi Dr. Ruckle. I learn something new every day. Wettability? At first, I smelled the pompatus of a nonce but I googled it. Lo & Behold, 'Tis indeed a proper descriptor. And of course, a light bulb lit. Being an avid 510 drip atty fan, I could never understand why it would take a little while for the atty to "break in", delivering better results after some use. Gunk. Retention and wettability. I suggest we henceforth call that condition on the curve of where a coil reaches its' peak ability to vaporize liquid the "Pizmotality".
Has your collaboration with Pedro on dry burning coils shed any new light on that subject? Sheesh, at that time it was still only about Kanthal. Now we have Ti, Ni, SS... Tough to find answers when the goal post keeps moving,eh?
Pedro is just now getting his plans together. He sent me an outline a few days ago and I sent him my comments. I believe he does have a stable sponsor so we should be seeing some interesting things in the coming months. He will be considering Kanthal and Ni200 together with Grade 1 Titanium.
I don't know if my guess on "break-in" is right or not but I do know that the best of the best is always associated with a bit of gunk on a coil. Cause and effect are hard to prove when there are as many variables as we have in vaping and when success is subjective.
Duane
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