Titanium wire, vaping and safety
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Trying nickel coils today @ temperature control should be interesting!
Been using strictly wattage all week
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I made my first ti coils for the evic vt. Wicked with rayon of course, single pull...
Went all out first try, a dual coil dripper. Only pretreatment was quick wiping with stainless pot scrubber and alcohol.
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28g unkamen ti, 2.4mm, 9wraps, .32 ohms. 50w, 580°f
Working well so far, no problem wrapping it as you can see.
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I received my annealed Ti from crazy wire today and it is significantly less springier and much easier to work with.
Looking good @JeremyR! I'm gonna have to get some 28 or 30g. The 26g has been doing well for me, but it's a tight fit in the Zephyrus.
580°F ?
Sounds awful high. Did you happen to do a dry rayon scorch test with those settings?
The VT seems quite limited in the higher temperature ranges, with 580f probably being much closer to 480f. I don't have one yet, just going by Pbusardo's tests.580°F ?
Sounds awful high. Did you happen to do a dry rayon scorch test with those settings?
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Ran it dry no problem.
Temp protected, vapor dropped nothing happened.
Im not sure why dry rayon would matter. Once it's wet it doesn't scorch. Cotton will burn in the coil before the tails are dry if too high, rayon won't because the way it transports. I don't make a habit of continuing to draw with no vapor but temp'ed it out to little vapor and no problem. The rayon was as dry as ever when in use, snow white.
This feels like it is vaping at the temp that I always vape rayon at with kanthal. And that was even to 275ml with no problem with rayon and No temp protect... I told you guys I run it really hot.
I didn't want to mess with it too much, first coil and wick its good so I didn't want to screw it up.
It's not any hotter than I've ever run rayon before.
Temp protected, vapor dropped nothing happened.
Im not sure why dry rayon would matter. Once it's wet it doesn't scorch. Cotton will burn in the coil before the tails are dry if too high, rayon won't because the way it transports. I don't make a habit of continuing to draw with no vapor but temp'ed it out to little vapor and no problem. The rayon was as dry as ever when in use, snow white.
This feels like it is vaping at the temp that I always vape rayon at with kanthal. And that was even to 275ml with no problem with rayon and No temp protect... I told you guys I run it really hot.
I didn't want to mess with it too much, first coil and wick its good so I didn't want to screw it up.
It's not any hotter than I've ever run rayon before.
I have a feeling there is also variation in that based on the wattage setting and ohms. I don't think one test can reflect on the whole range do you guys?
I mean if he had a 22g coil that needs 60w and ran it at 30 you may never reach high temprature. 28g at 30 or 60 however will run much hotter. Could be wrong this is new to me, but its doing what I want anyway.
I'm just trying to build some mental data of where different mods should be set with titanium. I haven't tried anything other than a DNA40 for TC, and the setting at which different dry wicking materials start to scorch is of interest.
While I still stand by its hard to vape a proper rayon wick dry enough to burn in normal use even on kanthal. If I do screw up It's never a wick I burn, just the coil itself overheats and burns juice giving a dry hit. Rayon is still protected and keeps going.
Dry scorch temp seems irrelevant because I don't vape a dry wick and rayon can dry to little vapor before the entire thing is completely dry. Cotton will scorch well before the tails are dry if you run too high, rayon won't.
Next item I recoil with ti I will run a test for you OK.
Dry scorch temp seems irrelevant because I don't vape a dry wick and rayon can dry to little vapor before the entire thing is completely dry. Cotton will scorch well before the tails are dry if you run too high, rayon won't.
Next item I recoil with ti I will run a test for you OK.
It's a problem with the VT. It reads lower than it should in Ti mode and according to PB's tests there seems to be a wall at 480F where the coil temperature doesn't rise significantly despite cranking the screen display temperature higher and higher.
Mine is running at 240C-250C and feels cooler than on the dna at calculated 232C (185C setting ni).
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Tony
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Mine is running at 240C-250C and feels cooler than on the dna at calculated 232C (185C setting ni).
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Tony
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Important note!
If you put the VT in Ni mode with a titanium coil, 185C feel EXACTLY like 185C on the DNA 40
So what's screwed up on the VT is the Ti TCR curve.
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If you put the VT in Ni mode with a titanium coil, 185C feel EXACTLY like 185C on the DNA 40
So what's screwed up on the VT is the Ti TCR curve.
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Tony
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I was thinking if I needed more power/ heat on the vt I would change to ni mode. It still won't be accurate but get me hotter.
On the evic vt in *nickle mode at 380°f the ti vapes similar to the ti mode at 600°f. Just a quick check, its close by taste. Anyone want to do the math..
On the evic vt in *nickle mode at 380°f the ti vapes similar to the ti mode at 600°f. Just a quick check, its close by taste. Anyone want to do the math..
That's great. I use the NP setting (65) on my SXK rDNA and adjust the temp to 360-380f anyway. The temp in farenheit is just a number for me in any case. Can't be bothered to learn what it actually is in Celsius.
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So, with your kind help I learned to clean wire before using it, had a dual coil titanium setup going. I must admit, it was a very clean vape, but the density was deplorable. Maybe I'm just too used to kanthal, but the experience left something to be desired. I had a 7 wrap, .5mm running everywhere from 250F to 435F (I know, higher than you recommended, but it wasn't producing!) on an IPV4 with 20, 30 and then 50J. Am I doing it wrong, or is this just how it is for the time? OH! And someone mentioned an upcoming upgrade to the IPV4, any word on that?
Thor,
Is that a typo or do you really mean a 0.5mm ID coil? If that is what you are using that is the smallest coil I have ever heard of. You should try at least 3.0 mm ID.
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