Titanium wire, vaping and safety
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@soulseek looks good! What gauges did you use? I finally got my dual claptons to fire right on Ni200 mode, the ramp up time on Ti mode in the SXM is way too long IMO.
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Currently trying out a titanium coil 0,4mm from the vapemesh company, cleaned it before installing came out on 0.359 on lemo 2 in my ipv d2, tried alot, settled for 400F & 28J .. and I must say I am blown away
But as I read you can go much higher then 400F ?
But as I read you can go much higher then 400F ?
Well on my testing of the Unk and Crazy Wire about 2 1/2 weeks in the Unk doesn't like to reach the temp I have set but the CW jumps right up to it and holds steady. The vapes are very similar now in fact the CW might even be a little better. I have the Unk set at 270F 15J in NI200 mode SXM the CW set at 280F 15J. The Unk has used a lot more juice and maybe the coil is already gunked up by now. Not sure how many tanks but I would guess 30 on the Unk and maybe 18-20 on the CW. I have vaped both just as much since I have 3 SXM''s I am using STM's 2 with Unk 1 with CW so for me the jury is still out as to which one is better. The CW is easier to work with the Unk is quite a bit springier to me.
You can go as high as you like up to the temp limit on the device. It's all personal preference.
That said, if your juice has a lot of PG, around 400F will likely yield the best results. If you have thicker, higher VG liquid, up around the 450-500F range tends to work better.
That is the Crazy Wire I am using also from Vape Mesh. You really can't beat their price but since I am in the US the shipping was a bit much but I ordered 2 so with shipping it was almost exactly the same price as Unkamen.You can go as high as you like up to the temp limit on the device. It's all personal preference.
That said, if your juice has a lot of PG, around 400F will likely yield the best results. If you have thicker, higher VG liquid, up around the 450-500F range tends to work better.
cricque,
Could you narrow down "much higher than 400F". What do you mean by much higher?
0.29mm and 0.4mm, I'm not sure what these translate into gauge size. I'm using this on my DNA200, which is why it performs so nicely.
Well I meant in temperature, I know my ipv mini d2 can go alot higher. But I cleaned my titanium etc and the vape is really smooth, just am looking for the max safe range of titanium. I know cotton can burn at 420+
Ti will not produce dioxides until well above 800°f. At any rate, way higher than you can comfortably vape at.
The IPV D2 won't allow you to burn the cotton in TC mode, no matter if you set it to 600F. A lot of the chips now are doing this.
Both. You can test it yourself. Somehow the chip realizes when the coil is dry and will cut power. It's not like the DNA-40 which would always fire at the set temp no matter if the coil was dry or not. I believe the SX Mini M class was the first board that did this.
Yes, true enough. Just curious about the D2. Now I wonder about the Apollo Reliant, a re-spec'd sxk chip. Anyway, I guess what's happening is when the fire button is depressed and the timer is started the chip checks the speed of res increase against the tcr setting and shuts off power if the res is increasing too fast for that tcr. I wish none of the tc mods did this so we could check temp accuracy with the dry cotton 420°f test. There is the boiling water 212°f test but that temp isn't even close to our vaping temps. Of course the D2 has nonadjustable tcr, but it would be nice to be able to run the dry cotton test in the event we run a different wire like 430 Stainless or NiFe52 in Ti mode. That way we would at least know what the temp offset is.
Yeah it's unfortunate because these mods make the cotton burn test useless and make it impossible to use a thermocouple to get temp readings on a dry coil. I've seen a reviewer who claimed the D2 was 30F low on it's temperature accuracy, but he fails to realize that when using a dry coil, it is throttling back power significantly.
Not sure if this was also the issue with my first titanium build on Subtank mini. I was able to pulse in Ni200nickel mode, 450 degrees at 20 joules, as per cigatrons suggestion. Pulsing worked for awhile, long enough I suppose but as I was getting hot spots, hot legs, etc. I wanted to try a squeeze with my ceramic tweezers, that's when the D2 went into "NO LIQUID" mode, no more firing allowed. The Unkamen Ti 26g wire was a bit stiff and springy, went with a 6 wrap on a 3mm CoilMaster. I always made my Kanthal coils in CONTACT, but after seeing all the issues when pulsing as the coils while looking like close contact, there were many tiny spaces. I think with this wire at least, I'm going to use SPACED from now on.
I got a tiny bit of grey or white just on both end wraps leading to the posts. I tried scrubbing with a soft tooth brush with no effect, so I felt there was little to no real Ti dioxide. Next time instead of pulsing the built coil on the mode, I'm going to do the pulses to blue, using the bent raw wire on atty posts as described earlier in this thread, that might help get rid of some spring as well. The coils ID seemed larger then 3mm, again the springiness, so next one will be on the 2.5mm rod.
I got a tiny bit of grey or white just on both end wraps leading to the posts. I tried scrubbing with a soft tooth brush with no effect, so I felt there was little to no real Ti dioxide. Next time instead of pulsing the built coil on the mode, I'm going to do the pulses to blue, using the bent raw wire on atty posts as described earlier in this thread, that might help get rid of some spring as well. The coils ID seemed larger then 3mm, again the springiness, so next one will be on the 2.5mm rod.
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