Titanium wire, vaping and safety

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softarno

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The sweet spot wire isn't grade 1, which is really what you want. I'm thinking it should work with the SX with a temperature offset. However, the SS basically lie to their customers in order to overprice the wrong type of wire. Don't support them in the future.

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So that means they should work fine On SX with TC , i also hope they will work on the Wismec reuleaux RX200 I don't see any problem thou but I will give it a try soon I got these stuff and will post an update.. Thanks
 

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So that means they should work fine On SX with TC , i also hope they will work on the Wismec reuleaux RX200 I don't see any problem thou but I will give it a try soon I got these stuff and will post an update.. Thanks
What it means is that it won't work the way expected with the standard Ti profile on the SXM. The TCR value according to SC for Ti G2 is 3525 which would equate to a TCR setting of .00353 after rounding it up. The Ti G1 is 3660 which would be a TCR value of .00366. I find the Ti profile on the SXM works better for me than using a TCR value instead. But both work well. What folks here are saying is that Ti G2 is not as pure and may not yield as accurately as Ti G1, but it will work.

I don't believe the RX200 can set a TCR value so you will need to use the Ti profile if I am not mistaken. But I am sure that the joyetech RX200 board is using a Ti G1 profile in a similar manner as it uses in the eVic VTC. You will then need to lower the temp setting to compensate slightly.
 

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What it means is that it won't work the way expected with the standard Ti profile on the SXM. The TCR value according to SC for Ti G2 is 3525 which would equate to a TCR setting of .00353 after rounding it up. The Ti G1 is 3660 which would be a TCR value of .00366. I find the Ti profile on the SXM works better for me than using a TCR value instead. But both work well. What folks here are saying is that Ti G2 is not as pure and may not yield as accurately as Ti G1, but it will work.

I don't believe the RX200 can set a TCR value so you will need to use the Ti profile if I am not mistaken. But I am sure that the Joyetech RX200 board is using a Ti G1 profile in a similar manner as it uses in the eVic VTC. You will then need to lower the temp setting to compensate slightly.
Thank you for the explanation, I am new to using Ti so that's why I may sound odd. with that said that means it will work but I have to reduce the temperature in case of RX200 and I guess same for SX350, well my temperature wit Ni200 used to be between 350 to 400 Max so you think being in the same range is a good idea with Ti wire from sweet spot? I guess I have to give it a try and build and play with the temperature till I find my way.. I really appreciate the explanation
 
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    I guess I have to give it a try and build and play with the temperature till I find my way.. I really appreciate the explanation

    It could be said of almost any wire and mod combination:
    1. If you don't care about ACTUAL temperature, start at the lowest setting (usually 200F) and adjust up from there to cloud/flavor production of your liking. (you may want to check Steam Engine first to see if your combination is even possible)
    2. If you care about the actual temperature, try running water and burnt cotton tests to see how accurate your wire/mod combination actually is.
     

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    IMO which I know there will be a lot of disagreement with the SXM or ML are the way to go. They can be used perfectly well without the software for NI200 Ti or any other wires. The DNA you have to use the software. If you are really into the geeky side of vaping then the DNA is the way to go. For me the SX in Ti01 mode gives you an excellent vape with Ti01 and uses the right TCR but if you use SS you have to set the TCR which you can do right on the mod. But alot of people really like to do alot of other things. I just want a good vape with Ti and thats what I get. If you use alot of different wires on a regular basis then the software is the way to go. From what I understand the M and the ML work the same without the use of the software but the ML has a little faster processor.
     
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    Quantum Mech

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    Thought I best warn you guys its not just Ti that's out to get you o_O

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    Flaskmaster

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    I work in the telecommunication industry as a field service technician. When I find the solution to a problem is corroded wire(s) sometimes the customer asks what causes the corrosion. I get a kick out of seeing the expression on their face when I explain that as much as oxygen is needed for life and great for us it is really a nasty corrosive for metals.
     

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    Got my Ti Grade 1 (?) from FT. First build in the Aromamizer 26 gauge dual 7 wrap spaced, .148 ohms. Wiped with alcohol, pretty clean. Only 2 wipes and it was clear. Dull gray finish, not shiny by any means. Did not dry burn.

    Using SE TFR curve. Started out low eventually set at 200W, 470 degrees and 200W preheat which is what I use with Ni200 with much success. Cool anemic vape. Bumped temp up, now at 510 degrees. Vape is much better. No hot legs. Device monitor shows temp regulating properly but cold resistance at .148 and live resistance at 510 degrees is only .281. Shouldn't the resistance be rising more? From what I have learned it should change about .83 (perhaps .415 since it is dual coils). Is that correct or am I thinking incorrectly?
     

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    Got my Ti Grade 1 (?) from FT. First build in the Aromamizer 26 gauge dual 7 wrap spaced, .148 ohms. Wiped with alcohol, pretty clean. Only 2 wipes and it was clear. Dull gray finish, not shiny by any means. Did not dry burn.

    Using SE TFR curve. Started out low eventually set at 200W, 470 degrees and 200W preheat which is what I use with Ni200 with much success. Cool anemic vape. Bumped temp up, now at 510 degrees. Vape is much better. No hot legs. Device monitor shows temp regulating properly but cold resistance at .148 and live resistance at 510 degrees is only .281. Shouldn't the resistance be rising more? From what I have learned it should change about .83 (perhaps .415 since it is dual coils). Is that correct or am I thinking incorrectly?
    With titanium it does rise nearly as much as ni200. That seems correct to me and titanium is all I use. Did you get the titanium in the little case thing. That is my go to titanium, LTQ titanium is pretty good from fasttech also.
     

    Flaskmaster

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    With titanium it does rise nearly as much as ni200. That seems correct to me and titanium is all I use. Did you get the titanium in the little case thing. That is my go to titanium, LTQ titanium is pretty good from fasttech also.

    Yes it is their Grade 1 in the clear plastic case, square rounded corner spools. It seems to be vaping fine so far, just have to raise the temp setting.
     

    2legsshrt

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    Ok ... thought I would go check out their site again to make sure my whiney post was just & did not need editing

    First thing I come across is them peddling more male cow dung

    ''It is important to note that there are different types of TC mods. Some of the chips are only set up for nickel while others can use both nickel and titanium. There are vapers who are using titanium on their nickel-only TC mods, you may come across their comments, but they will not work as well.''

    Where do they get their info from the tooth fairy

    I have used my M Class in nickel mode with Gr1 Ti and it works perfectly

    Using the new test firmware in Ti Mode it works fine but will vary temp in a wider range and overshoot TP more than in nickel mode

    Used a friends Evic in Ti mode and that decided it preferred wattage mode and had me choking on burnt cotton

    Maybe I am wrong & they are right, but from where I am sitting they don't have a Scooby doo what they are talking about

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    Yep even when the SX came out with the Ti mode it wasn't right so I used NI200 mode too. Now they seem to have it right on so I use it. What are you using QM Ziviph? I am sort of starting to like this Unkamen. For me with the STM easier to build with because it's like .42 traps it really easy. I like the lower resistance also plus the spools are the best thing going.
     

    Quantum Mech

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    Yep even when the SX came out with the Ti mode it wasn't right so I used NI200 mode too. Now they seem to have it right on so I use it. What are you using QM Ziviph? I am sort of starting to like this Unkamen. For me with the STM easier to build with because it's like .42 traps it really easy. I like the lower resistance also plus the spools are the best thing going.

    No throwing tomatoes at when I reveal :eek:

    Pre Made KA1 dual coil in the Goliath V2 & dual twin twisted 26awg KA1 Clapton wrapped in 32awg KA1 in the Aromamizer :oops:

    I have free time tomorrow so will get all my Ti builds remade/rewicked and try my hand at a dual Ti in my other Aromamizer

    Ti I have 26/28/29awg Zivipf and 24&26awg Crazy Wire

    Normally only use the 24awg nowa days though and mainly in the STM as the build is so reliable for all day at work

    Have been using it in my Zephyrus and Squape Rs too

    Have gone a bit mad lately buying tanks so Ti has taken a back seat but will get a wiggle on tomoz :thumbs:

    btw: that's an old post you dug up there mate :w00t:
     

    2legsshrt

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    OOps guess I started on a long ago page. Oh well this page is getting over my head, I'm just a dumb train driver but as far as I am concerned I've found my sweet spot with the SXMM, Ti wire, a simple coil and Kanger STM. I don't dryburn and I wash it once before I recoil. I can get the same results everytime and I've spent 6 years to get to this spot. I'm a happy vaper. I am more worried about the government taking it all away but I'm stocked up for probably 5 years. So no worries for me but for people who want to get off cigarettes it may be a tough road ahead.
     

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    Yeah that was way back in July mate :lol:

    Just shows me how long its been since @TheotherSteveS & @tchavei first injected me and got me hooked on Ti

    That 5 spaced wraps still works for me every time too in the STM

    I use 6 spaced wraps of 24g Ti in my STmini. Fairly closely spaced when wound on a 6-32 machine screw. Dia comes in a around 2.8mm. That one additional wrap nets a 17% increase in wick surface area and I can really tell the difference in flavor and vapor production. 5 wraps does fit better. 6 wraps requires some offsets to be bent in the legs but it's worth it to me as I only recoil about every 3 months.
     
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