Titanium wire, vaping and safety

[Unit Igor]

So will somebody take effort to do same with their wire and prove me i am wrong and unkamen has gr1

 

[Mactavish]

So will somebody take effort to do same with their wire and prove me i am wrong and unkamen has gr1

What tests exactly are you doing with a VTC MINI?

 

[Unit Igor]

10cm wire, which should give me 0.36ohm with 26awg gr1, grade2 should be 0.43ohm

 

[Hitcat44]

If I'm not mistaken, Druckle (or maybe Tony) did indeed test several Wires from different Vendors and Unkamen is the Real Deal (true G1 Ti).
Pretty sure but not 100% so don't take that as the Gospel.... I'm sure someone will definitively confirm or deny that soon.
Ya see,,, before I go spewing on here running down and/or defaming something or someone, I prefer to make damn sure I know WT-eF I am talking about.

That Manta must not translate into Croatian

 

[Unit Igor]

I am just poff that people are believing everything without checking them self's. When it comes to SSV wire, i really dont care what he has wrote on his web page. Even if he wrote he received wire from Riddick himself, you know when Riddick returned from that Planet of Titanium.
I just know what i see. Wire is clean, wire is easy to work with and its shiny which is really beneficial when it comes to cleaning and he is never stating is Grade1. Everybody can say for their wire what they want, he can say its taste, its beautiful and for vaping, but you cant lie about grade. Grade is standard, end of story.
But i dont want to talk about SSV, because everybody have their right to think what they want. I want to see some pictures explaining things. I know when i was in search for titanium gr1. When i asked them where they get their wire everybody was fast to reply "UK", but when i have asked for sheet everybody goes silent.
I am fisherman, and even for selling and buying small amount of fish there is some kind of paper prove from who you bought it and even when and where. I dont have problem showing that to anybody. They needed to have some kind of bill for buying that wire. I think i know what language bill they have....
We been burned down by vaping industry to many times buy now, in fact more then from ever other industry, of course i am not including tobacco industry here, they are criminals.

 

[soulseek]

I am just poff that people are believing everything without checking them self's. When it comes to SSV wire, i really dont care what he has wrote on his web page. Even if he wrote he received wire from Riddick himself, you know when Riddick returned from that Planet of Titanium.
I just know what i see. Wire is clean, wire is easy to work with and its shiny which is really beneficial when it comes to cleaning and he is never stating is Grade1. Everybody can say for their wire what they want, he can say its taste, its beautiful and for vaping, but you cant lie about grade. Grade is standard, end of story.
But i dont want to talk about SSV, because everybody have their right to think what they want. I want to see some pictures explaining things. I know when i was in search for titanium gr1. When i asked them where they get their wire everybody was fast to reply "UK", but when i have asked for sheet everybody goes silent.
I am fisherman, and even for selling and buying small amount of fish there is some kind of paper prove from who you bought it and even when and where. I dont have problem showing that to anybody. They needed to have some kind of bill for buying that wire. I think i know what language bill they have....
We been burned down by vaping industry to many times buy now, in fact more then from ever other industry, of course i am not including tobacco industry here, they are criminals.

So you're not ok with people not checking their wire from themselves but you're ok with SSV making false claims on their website?

Plenty of European sellers provide data sheets for their wire. For example, stealthvape that has some excellent wire provides one. Go back to this thread and check the websites of various of these sources and you'll see that they too include the required proof. Maybe you're ok paying SSV for Grade 2 wire (which they claim is purer than Grade 1 after applying all their Voodoo) just because it's clean. Personally, I'll stick with the real deal.

 

[TheotherSteveS]

So will somebody take effort to do same with their wire and prove me i am wrong and unkamen has gr1

largely most people are happy with the wire they are using. It is you who has the problem. I use Ti wire from SV and Zivipf. Both are Gr1. End of story. I also have some 26g TI from 3FVape that seems to be Gr1 as far as I can tell. There is nothing particularly wrong with using Gr2 either. The point is that SSV are blatently pretending that they have some magic formula that they have carefully 'designed' from the ground up just for vapers, and charging much more cash for it. It is total nonsense and bordering on criminal. The thing that really p's me off is that Phil Busardo uses it...shame on him!

 

[Quantum Mech]

My Zivipf & Vape Mesh/Crazy Wire ohmed out to Gr6.3

Vapes a treat so am happy with it

 

[Unit Igor]

Yes, my UD is also Gr1 i am happy , only 3$. See you

 

[Landman]

I am just poff that people are believing everything without checking them self's. When it comes to SSV wire, i really dont care what he has wrote on his web page. Even if he wrote he received wire from Riddick himself, you know when Riddick returned from that Planet of Titanium.
I just know what i see. Wire is clean, wire is easy to work with and its shiny which is really beneficial when it comes to cleaning and he is never stating is Grade1. Everybody can say for their wire what they want, he can say its taste, its beautiful and for vaping, but you cant lie about grade. Grade is standard, end of story.
But i dont want to talk about SSV, because everybody have their right to think what they want. I want to see some pictures explaining things. I know when i was in search for titanium gr1. When i asked them where they get their wire everybody was fast to reply "UK", but when i have asked for sheet everybody goes silent.
I am fisherman, and even for selling and buying small amount of fish there is some kind of paper prove from who you bought it and even when and where. I dont have problem showing that to anybody. They needed to have some kind of bill for buying that wire. I think i know what language bill they have....
We been burned down by vaping industry to many times buy now, in fact more then from ever other industry, of course i am not including tobacco industry here, they are criminals.

So you're okay with buying fishing line Brand B that is cheaper quality than Brand A, yet is priced way over the cost of Brand A, just because the guy selling Brand B says he's done some magic voodoo to it and it catches fish better than Brand A... even though there's been fishing line specialist that have worked with line upteen years, state that the guy selling Brand B is full of .......???

There's no argument that everyone has a right to buy and use whatever wire they want... but trying to validate your purchase on a forum that's already proved it to be inferior than cheaper wire makes it seem like deep down you know you got rooked.

But then again, maybe not having to wipe off some wire with IPA before coiling it is worth the cost...

 

[KenD]

I've bought cheapo titanium wire from fasttech and focalecig, and a bit more expensive wire from zivipf. They're all most definitely grade one. The gauges are a bit of on one of the wires from China (don't remember if it's from ft or focal), but that's it.

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[TheotherSteveS]

I've bought cheapo titanium wire from fasttech and focalecig, and a bit more expensive wire from zivipf. They're all most definitely grade one. The gauges are a bit of on one of the wires from China (don't remember if it's from ft or focal), but that's it.

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That raises the important point that measuring the resistance of a known length to get the resistivity (and therefore the probable grade/composition) only works if you know the real wire diameter, which means measuring it accurately!

 

[KenD]

That raises the important point that measuring the resistance of a known length to get the resistivity (and therefore the probable grade/composition) only works if you know the real wire diameter, which means measuring it accurately!

Most definitely.

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[LouisLeBeau]

Tossing this in here for funsies. 28ga Unkamen Titanium wire after being torched with a butane torch to a bright orange. About 270x magnification..

 

[BigEgo]

That raises the important point that measuring the resistance of a known length to get the resistivity (and therefore the probable grade/composition) only works if you know the real wire diameter, which means measuring it accurately!

And the problem with that is finding out what the real resistivity of TiGr1 really is.

 

[Unit Igor]

You know how i also know its not titanium gr1? and that is why i post this in first place, because it doesn't work on evic-vtc titanium setting. I have to move to TCR for ti, while UD 316l working normal on evic ss setting and ni200 on ni settings.
By the way Evic tcr is way of. I get normal water test only on 440 for ti.
You are forcing me to visit my lathe guy to measure wire(how you call in english those people?)

 

[TheotherSteveS]

You know how i also know its not titanium gr1? and that is why i post this in first place, because it doesn't work on evic-vtc titanium setting. I have to move to TCR for ti, while UD 316l working normal on evic ss setting and ni200 on ni settings.
By the way Evic tcr is way of. I get normal water test only on 440 for ti.
You are forcing me to visit my lathe guy to measure wire(how you call in english those people?)

That makes absolutely no sense. The TCR values for gr1 and 2 are almost identical. Using Gr2 with a Gr1 TCR would require only a very small offset in temperature to work just fine. There is something else going on. To be honest, it sounds like it isnt Ti at least not gr1 or 2...

 

[BigEgo]

Saw a guy post over on Evolv forums that he bought some TEMCo Ti wire. I have looked in the past but only found Ni-200, Kanthal and Nichrome on their website. Well, it does indeed look like they are carrying Grade 1 Ti wire. They have all gauges from 20 to 34. A 50 ft. spool of 24 or 26 is $11. Or you can get 100 ft. for $22.

I always bought my Kanthal from them (because they are an authorized Sandvik seller). I always wished they carried Ti and now it looks like they do. Just throwing that out there for anyone looking for a reputable Ti vendor.

Now all we need is for them to carry SS and NiFe wires and we'll be set.

Here's their info on their Ti wire:

Product features

• Proudly Made in the U.S.A. ZERO wire imports policy.
• We have a physical location. If you have questions, we want to hear from you. Want to talk wire or pick up your order? Stop by and we'd be glad to have you.
• Clean production environment houses spooling process.
• Computerized spooling by weight. You'll get what you paid for, guaranteed.
• Perfectly tensioned. Zero elongation, scratches, or other flaws.
• ZERO contaminants. Hands-off feeding eliminates skin salts & oils.
• Best price & quality guaranteed! - We pass on our buying power with low prices.
• Our return policy: If you don't like it, we'll take it back & pay the shipping!
• As an OEM, we use many of the products we sell. As a result, only high quality winding materials are offered to you.

They also mention that "resistance values are coming soon." They probably mean that they will provide the resistivity at 20°C, but it would be sweet if they provide a TFR curve.

Oh, and this wire is annealed (it will be soft).

 

[Hitcat44]

Nice find
Thnx for the intel. It appears there is a new Sheriff in Ti Town Vendor-wise. I was 50-50 (over Unkamen) till the Caveat "annealed"....
When my Stash runs out, will be jumping Ship to TEMCo personally.

 

[DrDC]

First post on ECF (lurked forever and finally signed up) but I'll throw in my experience with TEMCo Ti wire too. I recently bought spools of 24, 26, and 28-gauge Ti wire from TEMCo and it's without a doubt the highest-quality Ti wire that I've used to date. The wire is completely clean (no traces of graphite whatsoever), isn't springy like some of the other wires I've used because it's already annealed, and seems to match up perfectly with the target resistances I've gotten from Steam-Engine.

I have been so impressed with their Ti wire that I've ordered several 250ft spools to stock up. I highly recommend checking them out! (eBay is where I first found them)