Tobacco extraction using heated Ethanol
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3 tins worth (4.5 ounces) could produce enough extract to flavor between 3 and 4 liters of NET. Something tells me that might hold you for awhile.
Louisiana Red is also available in bulk (by the ounce) at a significantly reduced cost per ounce (40% cheaper than the tin price). This becomes important when sampling a variety of new tobaccos because you can buy a single ounce of each for around $3.50 -if- the tobacco you want is available in bulk, not all tobacco is.
They were out of stock so I didn't know.3 tins worth (4.5 ounces) could produce enough extract to flavor between 3 and 4 liters of NET. Something tells me that might hold you for awhile.
Louisiana Red is also available in bulk (by the ounce) at a significantly reduced cost per ounce (40% cheaper than the tin price). This becomes important when sampling a variety of new tobaccos because you can buy a single ounce of each for around $3.50 -if- the tobacco you want is available in bulk, not all tobacco is.
I really didn't know how many oz of tobacco should fill the jar.
So do I need to put the tobacco in a bowl and fluff it?
Pint jars work great, they can handle larger amounts of tobacco.
Nope, most tobacco is good to go as-is. The only tobaccos I've ever needed to "fluff" are the ones that have been pressed into a hard "cake" or strips and cigars that I've sliced up. Louisiana Red (and most pipe tobacco) is already fluffy enough.
About 1 ounce for a pint jar, you don't want to fill the jar full of tobacco.
Finger feed the tobacco into a pint jar until it reaches the 10oz mark but don't pack it down, leave it loose. Now add ethanol until it just covers the tobacco (which will pack down a little), then add 25% more which should be somewhere near the 12oz mark on the jar. This usually requires around 300ml (10 ounces) of ethanol. Install lid and lid ring. When you're ready to put it in a hot water bath, loosen the ring off then re-tighten it until it just starts to bind the lid down but no tighter (exactly like when canning food). Then you're ready to go!
Nope, most tobacco is good to go as-is. The only tobaccos I've ever needed to "fluff" are the ones that have been pressed into a hard "cake" or strips and cigars that I've sliced up. Louisiana Red (and most pipe tobacco) is already fluffy enough.
About 1 ounce for a pint jar, you don't want to fill the jar full of tobacco.
Finger feed the tobacco into a pint jar until it reaches the 10oz mark but don't pack it down, leave it loose. Now add ethanol until it just covers the tobacco (which will pack down a little), then add 25% more which should be somewhere near the 12oz mark on the jar. This usually requires around 300ml (10 ounces) of ethanol. Install lid and lid ring. When you're ready to put it in a hot water bath, loosen the ring off then re-tighten it until it just starts to bind the lid down but no tighter (exactly like when canning food). Then you're ready to go!
Thank you for the updated "reader's digest" version of the procedure it really is of immense help. My one question is what type of ethanol are you using. Would Everclear (75% or 151 proof I think)work?
Whitout meaning to sound dense, the 7% to 12% solution is in the PG/VG base? Is this the concentration you'd vape?
Thank you for all the help.
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I use 190 proof PGA which is 95%+ ethanol and 5% water. 151 proof would work but once you reduced it you'd be left with a water based extract. (Ethanol is considerably more volatile than water, it's the first to evaporate.) You can't store a water based extract long term (stuff will grow in it) so you'd need to mix it all into ready to vape NET. Since PG and VG are both hygroscopic (readily absorbs and retains moisture) the mixed NET would have a 7% to 12% water content that can't be easily removed.
If I were going to use 151 proof PGA, I'd reduce the extract by at least 80% before mixing it into ready to vape NET in order to reduce the amount of water in the finished mix. (A higher level of reduction would further concentrate the flavor strength of the extract, requiring a lower percentage of extract be used to flavor the mixed NET)
In other words for 100mls of ready to vape NET, 7mls to 12mls of it would be extract (7% to 12% of the total volume). The rest of course is PG/VG and liquid nic.
My last mix was for C&D's "Bow Legged Bear" (a robust flavored extract) that I mixed at 8% flavor strength. For 100mls of ready to vape NET I mixed;
- 8ml - 100mg VG Liquid nic
- 8ml - Bow Legged Bear extract
- 58ml - VG
- 26ml - PG
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Good stuff. Thanks for the update @Str8vision. Thanks also for your never ending patience. So many people are benefitting from it.
I'll be back once I receive my "heads" i'm waiting for...
I'll be back once I receive my "heads" i'm waiting for...
Well, now that you opened this can of worms, where do you get 95% (190 proof) ethyl alcohol from?
190 proof Everclear also known as PGA (Pure Grain Alcohol) is available at local liquor stores. I'm fortunate enough to live in an area where it's legal, available and only moderately taxed.
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It seems it is available at local liquor stores....but not in California. Our idiotic state legislature is "protecting" us from ourselves, we can only get the Everclear 151...woopee!
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