Tobacco extraction using heated Ethanol
- Thread starter Str8vision
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
Than you have 20ml pg and 5ml ethanol or not ? I have thought you let all the ethanol evaporate.
Oh no, what have i done. Hope i can reduce the 120ml ethanol/pg mixture to perhaps 30ml. I am so stupid, damnd. I have to learn better english. Thanks a lot. Next time i will do it right. Ohoh....
You can reduce the ethanol from the mix but not the PG.
Correct. You can reduce all of the ethanol but, mixed with PG, it's going to take some time. Back when I use to transfer flavor I'd reduce "most" of the ethanol out but didn't mind leaving a little in to help thin high VG mixes.
Last edited:
Okay, than you st8. I think my first try was not soo good, but the ethanol is evaoprating now in the oven. I will wait a few hours.
How much ethanol did you have and how much PG did you add to it? Had the ethanol been reduced any? With this data we can calculate what mix ratio you'll need to start with.
60 ml and 60 ml pg. The ethanol is reducing now in the oven a little. I am still waiting. I think i must go on tomorrow and than i will try it again because its night here in germany and sleeping time in a few hours. Perhaps i will make 2 new extracts. It was the cheap american spirit organic and a few lucky strike cigarettes. Its okay. The expensive tobaccos are in the freezer since sunday. I have filtered at 2-3 mycrometer before freezing and i will do it again after freezing.
Since this specific extract won't actually be concentrated by the reduction, I'd start by mixing it at 15% and adjust from there.
I am very interested in the rocky. Have you done it by the tutorial of the first page or how have you become such a good flavour ? Please, let me know, step by step.
I have now 11 tobaccos ready to mix at the weekend. After filtering i have had perhaps 60-80 ml ethanol. I have reduced it to 15-20 ml in the oven and mixed it 1:1 with PG. At the moment 4 bottles are in the oven again to reduce the ethanol and i will have later perhaps 20ml PG with flavour.
How much of the ready extract should i try in the PG/VG juice ?
Nicotine must be absent or under 0mg or not ?
Once you've shredded the cigar, covered it with ethanol and sealed the container, let the cigar soak in the ethanol at room temperature for three days (72 hours), then perform the hot ethanol extraction.
For a hot ethanol extract that has been properly reduced, start mixing it at around 5% and adjust to taste. Different tobaccos require different mix ratios depending on their flavor strength. Use of a juice mixing calculator is highly recommended, it takes the guesswork out of it.
When you mix your extract with PG and VG, -any nicotine you desire must be added- as part of that mix. If you want your NET @ 9mg nic then you must add enough liquid nic to achieve that level of nic just like any other DIY juice. Use of a juice mixing calculator is highly recommended, it takes the guesswork out of it. Many great mixing calculators are free and immediately available for download, I use "eJuice Me Up".
my method... I add first, 100mg nic base to the bottle, if I want 25 nic, I put in 100 nic at 25% of bottle volume. Then I add flavors or extract to what I like ( 20% usually) and then top off with straight VG... this method works for any size bottle...
If this was more succesful by the rocky patel, why dont you try it with pipe tobaccos or other ?
I have my first 4 ethanol PG mixture in the oven at 140°F since 8 hours. I have now 25-30 ml. There must be still 5-10 ml ethanol in the mix. I am thinking about. If i take them now out of the oven i have still ethanol in it and if i let it be in the oven i can perhaps loose some flavour. What do you think ?
Newly acquired technique, I will be doing this for all future extractions.
Does anyone know if that "ring around the collar" that forms on the bowl when reducing the alcohol is flavor or gunk? I tend to think it is gunk because it does not dissolve in water (as flavor would presumably) To be sure it might contain some flavor but not worth the extra gunk that comes with it. Anyone had a similar experience?
Besides that ring, I also see some wax/oil sticking to the glass all the way as the liquid is receding.
And yet another thing I have observed, is that sugars will start forming on the bottom if you reduce the liquid beyond 80%. That happened to me, and I was happy it did since I get enough sweetness out of my pg/vg.
Besides that ring, I also see some wax/oil sticking to the glass all the way as the liquid is receding.
And yet another thing I have observed, is that sugars will start forming on the bottom if you reduce the liquid beyond 80%. That happened to me, and I was happy it did since I get enough sweetness out of my pg/vg.
Last edited:
I usually get a "ring" when reducing, figure it's a combination of particulates, flavor and gunk. Some tobaccos leave a well defined ring while others are virtually ring-less. Never had (or at least noticed), sugars separating during the reduction, but certainly wouldn't mind if they did. I'm pretty sure the casings used on the aromatics I'm extracting are loaded with it.
The only tobacco I noticed sugars separating was Louisiana Red, and only after reduction at 80%. Not sure if the Red has any casings - I have yet to try it.
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
- Locked
- Locked
