Tobacco extraction using heated Ethanol

[Exchaner]

The difference with vodka is the absence of water during the heating process. I am using water for reduction because I do not want to evaporate the IPA to the point of dryness. Str8vision has tried that and found it difficult to work with.

As for impurities, I am using 99% IPA; the 1% might be water and who knows what else ... One thing is for sure, Str8vision is still alive after having tried it. Gave me the courage to try ....

 

[jonnydoe]

As for impurities, I am using 99% IPA; the 1% might be water and who knows what else ... One thing is for sure, Str8vision is still alive after having tried it. Gave me the courage to try ....

Are you sure ? I havent heart from Str8 for days.

 

[Exchaner]

Are you sure ? I havent heart from Str8 for days.

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[Str8vision]

I don't think he made it....

 

[Exchaner]

Oops, no more Isopropyl for me !!

 

[Kingboomer]

Do the bitter wizard needs steeping time ?

I steep it with my finished mixes, that is, once I'm done mixing I let the whole thing steep.


-Kingboomer

 

[jonnydoe]

Oh my dear, cant stop laughing. What a coool picture.

Str8 is gone to the vaper heaven. GOOD Bye my friend, good bye. He was a really good leader.

Now, its my thread !

 

[jonnydoe]

I steep it with my finished mixes, that is, once I'm done mixing I let the whole thing steep.

Okay, i will try it if i am ready with the next 20 tobaccos. I have bought some dark fired expecially latakia and must extract them. The only thing what is missing is the kentucky fired muwat drew estate cigar. But its very expensive because of shipping. It must be very smoky, fire cured and a cigar, cool combination. Perhaps i will buy it...

 

[dannyv45]

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I don't think he made it....

I think I just found my new avatar

 

[jonnydoe]

Nono, its mine. Cant you see, its a John Doe !

 

[seebo]

I use the ethanol extract at 7% as a flavoring but you could also transfer the flavor from the ethanol to either PG or VG. Do this by adding/mixing an equal amount of PG or VG to the ethanol, heat the uncovered mix to 150F and allow the ethanol to evaporate.

if i want to transfer the flavor, how do you know when the ethanol has evaporated? is there something to look for or a certain amount of time it would take?

 

[Exchaner]

I assume the ethanol has evaporated when the volume reaches 50%.

 

[seebo]

I assume the ethanol has evaporated when the volume reaches 50%.

ah.. well that makes sense.

 

[Boxster]

if i want to transfer the flavor, how do you know when the ethanol has evaporated? is there something to look for or a certain amount of time it would take?

I wait until I can't detect any alcohol smell. Once you add PG I have found it difficult to reduce the alcohol. You might also mix a small sample.

 

[Str8vision]

if i want to transfer the flavor, how do you know when the ethanol has evaporated? is there something to look for or a certain amount of time it would take?

I go by volume.

First, you filter the ethanol extract then you reduce it 75 - 80%. After reduction add an equal amount of PG to the remaining ethanol and mix well. Then reduce the ethanol/PG mixture by roughly 50%.

Example; After an extraction you have 100ml of an ethanol based tobacco extract, after freeze and final filtering you have 75ml of extract left. Reduce that 75ml down to ~15ml and then add 15ml of PG to it, mix well, you now have 30ml of blended Ethanol/PG. Reduce this 30ml mixture down to ~15ml and you'd have no ethanol left in the mix, just PG based extract.

 

[Str8vision]

Nono, its mine. Cant you see, its a John Doe !

Exactly right

 

[Kingboomer]

OK, I'm sure I missed this, but say after I mix with PG, can't I just use that? Is it necessary to evap off the rest of the ethanol?


-Kingboomer


P.S. should be getting supplies to start this VERY SOON, thanks @Str8vision

 

[Str8vision]

Yes Kingboomer you can just use it that way, evaporating the last bit of ethanol is unnecessary unless the flavor or aroma offends. I do recommend the initial 75% reduction so that the extract is concentrated enough to mix at low percentages, 5% instead of 20%.

 

[Kingboomer]

Thanks Str8. Most of my DIY is high VG, so that little bit of ethanol should help mix things up easier, i.e. shaking for a few mins instead of half an hour


-Kingboomer

 

[jonnydoe]

My oldest own juice is now 1 week old. I can taste the tobacco but its not strong enough like the nets from net.com. Have your fresh own made juices the same very mild taste or are they better ? Perhaps they will be strong after a month but i want to know it yet.

Have you tried the hot extraction with only PG ? No reducing needed with full flavour would be interesting. Have you ?

Ohoh, if forgot. Please come back Str8, we need your experiences