Stoved Black Virginia.
I almost purchased that my last go round. Next time, it will be on the list along with some Orientals.
Now, I just need to make a trip to the ABC store for some more PGA.
Stoved Black Virginia.
Very interesting tid-bit of info! A mixologist bud of mine sent me about 5 of the Purilum synth tobaccos.....they were NOT all that and a bag of chips.
Purilum may have been one of the issues D&R faced, plus, the fact that what they were selling was NOT strawberry kiwi chocolate marshmallow infused gummy bear sweet tart custard sucralosed ladened "premium" e-liquid. ...........
..........I haven't actually seen poll numbers, but I imagine the folks that like a pure tobacco vape is around 1% of the vaping population.
seriously doubt D&R, a tobacco company, employed NET connoisseurs to help formulate their e-liquid products
I've always suspected retail NETs were an endangered species which is the primary reason I spent years learning how to make my own.
removes government from the equation entirely. Kicks their ugly, lying, corrupt derrière to the curb where it belongs
I'm giving growing my own tobacco a shot.
It's all here for the making!
Sooooo many choices!
This is also a good site for seed possibilities and loads of helpful info concerning growing your own tobacco.
Tobacco Seeds From Around the World
Few of the retail NETs I've sampled tasted very good, most of them were weak and or obviously made from generic TA since their tobacco flavor was rather bland and non-descript.
.....we are but a very small fringe group likely less than 1% of vapers. I tried to like syrupy sweet fruit, bakery, beverage and or candy flavors but for me it's NET or nothing.
I don't really mind being part of a fringe group, except that there isn't a large enough customer base to warrant companies like NET.com spending tens of millions of dollars seeking FDA approval. I've always suspected retail NETs were an endangered species which is the primary reason I spent years learning how to make my own. Another is that any retail NETs remaining after 2018 will no doubt pass the cost of FDA approval/deeming on to the consumer through higher product prices, when coupled with the forthcoming state "tobacco product" taxes, the price of retail NETs could reach $1.50 per ml or more. I much prefer spending $0.03 per ml making my own. As I've said in other threads, stockpiling nic and making your own juice removes government from the equation entirely.
what to do with 50 something pounds of fine, high grade, aged tobacco, good stuff, Gawith Hoggarth, Rattray's, Samuel Gawith, Dunhill, MacBaren, McClelland, and so on as well as blending components latakia, perique, burleys
.....But a question arises: what to do with 50 something pounds of fine, high grade, aged tobacco....
....Honestly the learning curve on the whole vaping thing has been a bit steep for me, seems like there's a good deal of of hyper junk out there to throw away money on.
I see your future...... You will soon come into possesion of many, many, many mason jars.
Str8, I'm assuming you are using 190 PGA. The nanny state where I currently reside has long banned this demon drink but I had concluded this wouldn't be a problem since I live in a border town to another state where I had seen Everclear on the shelves. Alas, today I did indeed find Everclear only to learn it's the 151 proof edition. What would your thoughts be on using this watered down version?
In the past, several others have reported similar difficulties obtaining 190 proof PGA but I've yet to hear from anyone who's tried using a different ethanol/water ratio for this extraction method. I've only ever used 190 proof PGA (>95% ethanol <5% water) so don't know what flavor difference 151 proof PGA (>75% ethanol <25% water) would yield. I'm also unsure what effect the higher water content might have on the "freeze filtering" process. Since you already have the 151 proof PGA and have ample tobacco on hand why not use it in a small (1/2 ounce of tobacco) experimental extraction and sample/evaluate the results? It might work flawlessly, but we won't know till it's been tried. Filtration shouldn't be a problem since both water and ethanol have a low viscosity. I do think when you reduce (evaporate) the extract by 75% the remaining 25% will mainly be water since the highly volatile ethanol will tend to evaporate first. Considering that both PG and VG are highly hygroscopic (readily absorbs water, even from the surrounding air) once mixed with PG/VG the absorbed water will be locked in, (can't evaporate it off) and will tend thin the mix lowering its viscosity. I'd counter this by increasing the ratio of VG just a bit in the final mix.
I'm happy. No 190 proof experience to compare to, but happy.
I have a hunch that freeze filtering after reduction may prove to be more effective at removing undesirable elements
After a 4 month room temperature soak I pulled the quart jars of Acid Blondie, Acid Opulence, Louisiana Red and pint jar of Picayune for separation/filtering. Separating the solvent from tobacco with such large batches took some doing, each of the quart jar extractions required multiple coffee filters. Ended up with around 21 ounces (621ml) from each of the quart jars and 10 ounces (295ml) from the pint.
Once separated the extracts were resealed and placed in a freezer at -10F for 48 hours allowing some of the undesirable gunk leeched from the tobacco during the extraction process to precipitate out of solution. After the 48 hour "cold treatment" the extracts were filtered while still in the freezer. Both the Blondie and Opulence cigar extracts required multiple coffee filters and several hours to cold filter while the Louisiana Red and Picayune pipe tobaccos were surprisingly quick and easy. The 21 ounces of L. Red required only one filter and perhaps 30 minutes time whereas the Blondie required three filters and around 90 minutes. Ended up with approximately 19 ounces remaining from each of the quarts and 9 ounces from the pint jar so around a 10% loss to the filter gods. Much of this "loss" is actually the undesirable gunk that was leeched from the tobacco during the extraction process. As it precipitates out of solution during cold storage this "gunk" collects at the bottom of the jar and I've learned to avoid dumping it in the filter (when cold filtering) otherwise it quickly loads and clogs the filter.
All the extracts are currently being slowly reduced (concentrated) ~70% via natural open air evaporation. Once reduction is complete the jars will be resealed and allowed to sit at room temperature, undisturbed, for two weeks allowing any dissolved oils time to coalesce before the final filtering (1 micron). However, before the final filtering, 45ml from one of these "condensed" extracts will be subjected to the freeze filtering process again. I have a hunch that freeze filtering after reduction may prove to be more effective at removing undesirable elements (gunk) since there is significantly less solvent available to continue holding these dissolved elements in solution. Unfortunately, there's also a chance flavor could be negatively impacted as well, only time will tell.