Tobacco extraction using heated Ethanol
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I was bless by a member who sent me samples of the juices he made and I fell in love with the Louisiana Red. I was having a hard time craving a cigarette and I did smoke one last weekend. He suggested some NET's and I tried, and now I'm in love.
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louisiana Red is among my favorites. It was one of the early extractions that did. I tried it based on the recomendations I found here. I have found some good folks here who are willing to share their experience and help out new commers. With a little time, I am starting to discover what types of tobaccos I enjoy. I have found this "Hobby" to be very rewarding. I look forward to seeing you around. Good luck & have fun with it!
louisiana Red is among my favorites. It was one of the early extractions that did. I tried it based on the recomendations I found here. I have found some good folks here who are willing to share their experience and help out new commers. With a little time, I am starting to discover what types of tobaccos I enjoy. I have found this "Hobby" to be very rewarding. I look forward to seeing you around. Good luck & have fun with it!
Thank you! I think for me I was looking for something that would come close to a cigarette and for me it did. Since I have a severe allergy to pg, I have to diy and this is right up my alley! I'm used to diy'ing shake n vape and with tobacco it takes a while. Patience will be needed for this journey.
Hiya, and welcome!
There's no chant that I know of but we're always open to new ideas!Do you know which extraction method he used?
That's the only bad thing about making NET, it does take time (and patience) to build a properly stocked and aged supply. While mixed NET always improves with ageing it's still pretty good shake-n-vape. Louisiana Red (a Virginia/Perique blend otherwise known as a "VaPer") will need to age for its flavor to fully develop. Have you tried any other NETs?
The method he used was heated ethanol.Hiya, and welcome!
Do you know which extraction method he used?
That's the only bad thing about making NET, it does take time (and patience) to build a properly stocked and aged supply. While mixed NET always improves with ageing it's still pretty good shake-n-vape. Louisiana Red (a Virginia/Perique blend otherwise known as a "VaPer") will need to age for its flavor to fully develop. Have you tried any other NETs?
I tried a total of 6 and made notes too! I really fell in love with it! It gave me what I've been missing for the past 2 yrs. when I started vaping, I stayed away from tobacco flavors and then I developed a allergy. So I kind of stuck with menthol. I have fought cravings this whole time and I have to say the nets hit the spot.
I know what you mean. NETs are why I started vaping, nothing else does it for me.
If you need any help or have any questions just ask, lots of helpful folks around here.
I only had a chance to quickly look at the first couple of pages and I already have a couple of questions. I will start writing them down and see if I can find my answers as I read on! My first question is if the pipe tobacco aromas get absorbed (for lack of a better word) into the NET.I know what you mean. NETs are why I started vaping, nothing else does it for me.
If you need any help or have any questions just ask, lots of helpful folks around here.
Yes, just like flavor the aroma is often (but not always) extracted from the tobacco too. You might not be able to discern the aroma in the extract because of the overpowering odor of the ethanol itself. However, once it's mixed into a ready to vape NET the unique aromas from each individual tobacco blend often shine through. Heavily flavored/scented tobaccos (like Peach Cobbler) may not smell as peachy as the tobacco did in its tin. My experience has been that heavy aromatic tobaccos don't always extract well. Peach Cobbler doesn't actually "taste" like a peach cobbler even if it does kinda smell like one. Sutliff "Molto Dolce" was a notable exception, the vanilla, caramel and honey essences were quite good. Unfortunately, expelled vapor doesn't carry the pleasing sweet aroma (room note) like smoking a pipe. Sure wish it did!
Here's a quick way to test the aroma of an ethanol extract; take a small piece of paper towel and place a few drops of extract on it. Allow the ethanol to evaporate off, then take a whiff.
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Thank you! When I get everything set up, I will keep y'all updated!I know what you mean. NETs are why I started vaping, nothing else does it for me.
If you need any help or have any questions just ask, lots of helpful folks around here.
I have a question.... my tobacco will be here before my filters. I was wondering would it be ok to soak my tobacco with 190 for a few days before I place it in the crockpot.
Thank you! How many times do I need to filter? I've seen different post where it varied.
Personally I filter an extract three times:
- Through a coffee filter when separating tobacco from the extraction solvent;
- Again through a coffee filter when freeze filtering the extract;
- Through a paper lab filter for the final filtering.
Time sure does fly! It's been two and a half years since this thread started and I thought it was time to update the method of extraction to include changes/tweaks made along the way. There are many different ways/variations to accomplish each step of this process but I won't attempt to address them all in this post. Here's the "basic" updated process;
Prepare a hot bath with water temperature set between 160F and 165F. Ethanol boils at 173F so try to keep the temperature below the boiling point.
Place shredded tobacco in a glass canning jar, pour in enough ethanol to completely cover the tobacco then add about 25% more. Lightly seal the jar (not too tight) and place it in the hot water bath, add enough warm water to the bath to match the level of ethanol inside the jar. Once the water temperature returns to 160F, process for 12 hours. Check periodically and add water to the bath as needed. After 12 hours have elapsed turn the heat off and let everything cool to room temperature. (NOTE: For an even deeper flavor extraction, seal the jar tightly and let it sit at room temperature for a few weeks before proceeding to the next step.)
Put a coffee filter inside a funnel and place the funnel in a clean glass jar. Pour the ethanol (now an extract) into the filter and wait for it to flow through before dumping the tobacco in. Once the tobacco has been dumped in carefully begin gathering/folding the edges of the coffee filter together to encapsulate the tobacco inside. In the palm of your hand, gently squeeze the encapsulated tobacco to release/recover as much extract as possible, slowly increase the squeezing pressure being careful not to rupture the filter. Discard the tobacco and filter. Seal the jar and place it in a freezer for 48 hours. Ethanol won't freeze, it just gets cold. While in the freezer some of the undesirable elements pulled from the tobacco during the extraction process will precipitate out of solution and coalesce in the bottom of the jar.
Put a coffee filter inside a funnel and place the funnel in a clean glass jar. Place this "filtering setup" in the freezer and allow it to get cold. Retrieve the extract from the freezer and carefully pour it into the coffee filter, if possible allow the filtering to take place inside the freezer so everything stays cold. Once the extract has filtered through, discard the coffee filter. Allow the extract to warm to room temperature but leave the lid off the jar this time. Reduce the extract by around 70%. (NOTE: setting the open jar in front of a small fan will help speed evaporation.) Once reduced your extract can be filtered to whatever level you prefer, I recommend 3 micron filtration or better.
Mix the reduced extract at 7% to 12% strength. After mixing, allow time for the ethanol to evaporate from your mixed NET. Now you're ready to sample it, but remember that properly aging a mixed NET always improves its flavor. Enjoy!
Prepare a hot bath with water temperature set between 160F and 165F. Ethanol boils at 173F so try to keep the temperature below the boiling point.
Place shredded tobacco in a glass canning jar, pour in enough ethanol to completely cover the tobacco then add about 25% more. Lightly seal the jar (not too tight) and place it in the hot water bath, add enough warm water to the bath to match the level of ethanol inside the jar. Once the water temperature returns to 160F, process for 12 hours. Check periodically and add water to the bath as needed. After 12 hours have elapsed turn the heat off and let everything cool to room temperature. (NOTE: For an even deeper flavor extraction, seal the jar tightly and let it sit at room temperature for a few weeks before proceeding to the next step.)
Put a coffee filter inside a funnel and place the funnel in a clean glass jar. Pour the ethanol (now an extract) into the filter and wait for it to flow through before dumping the tobacco in. Once the tobacco has been dumped in carefully begin gathering/folding the edges of the coffee filter together to encapsulate the tobacco inside. In the palm of your hand, gently squeeze the encapsulated tobacco to release/recover as much extract as possible, slowly increase the squeezing pressure being careful not to rupture the filter. Discard the tobacco and filter. Seal the jar and place it in a freezer for 48 hours. Ethanol won't freeze, it just gets cold. While in the freezer some of the undesirable elements pulled from the tobacco during the extraction process will precipitate out of solution and coalesce in the bottom of the jar.
Put a coffee filter inside a funnel and place the funnel in a clean glass jar. Place this "filtering setup" in the freezer and allow it to get cold. Retrieve the extract from the freezer and carefully pour it into the coffee filter, if possible allow the filtering to take place inside the freezer so everything stays cold. Once the extract has filtered through, discard the coffee filter. Allow the extract to warm to room temperature but leave the lid off the jar this time. Reduce the extract by around 70%. (NOTE: setting the open jar in front of a small fan will help speed evaporation.) Once reduced your extract can be filtered to whatever level you prefer, I recommend 3 micron filtration or better.
Mix the reduced extract at 7% to 12% strength. After mixing, allow time for the ethanol to evaporate from your mixed NET. Now you're ready to sample it, but remember that properly aging a mixed NET always improves its flavor. Enjoy!
Why are these filters so pricey? I really don't need 100
You've really got to shop the filters out, prices are crazy on some while cheap on others. How are you planning to use the filters, pleat folded for inside a funnel?
I'm a pro at handed poured coffee! Been doing it since the late 90's
I fold into a triangle for the coffee funnel.
I fold into a triangle for the coffee funnel.
Fantastic. The price of filters varies wildly and unpredictably. Sometimes a larger filter is far cheaper than a smaller one of the exact same type, makes no sense at all so you have to watch/compare carefully. You'll need paper lab filters with a large enough diameter to make a decent sized cone shaped filter, I'd suggest 12cm diameter or larger. What type of filters were you planning to use?
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