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Discussion in 'Bottom Feeder Mods' started by misterD, Jun 2, 2010.

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  1. Bubo

    Bubo Super Member ECF Veteran

    Ug - so I get the venturi principal - but what holds the needle in place on top?
    I'm sitting here looking at it... Somebody help me out before I go crazy with it! :)
    Vaping awaits! :)
     
  2. asdaq

    asdaq Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Just the top connector in the pill fob. With the needle close to the size of the hole, it would be hard for the needle not to make contact in the center post.
     
  3. Persis

    Persis Senior Member ECF Veteran

  4. Bubo

    Bubo Super Member ECF Veteran

    I thought of that post too....
    Last night I managed to actually back off and let it sit, I'm thinking that my 'needle' maybe too thin (I think that it's 3/16" Brass tube) and might need to be wider to seal against something, so I am going shopping again today at ACE.....

    Looking at some of the cartomizers I have, I did see the chamfered hole where the needle might fit into, so I might add that to my 'Atty for Life' setup - right now it's a flat bottom.... Maybe a fat needle to seal, and then a thinner part to go into the atty....
     
  5. asdaq

    asdaq Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Bubo, you mean 1/16"? Those are quite close in OD to a 16G needle. I did an adapter like you describe with a section of 18G to slide into a 16G (nice fit, using thin walled needles) and a tiny spring inside the the top of the 18G to act as a nozzle, but it wasn't even needed, and the 16G worked fine on it's own.
     
  6. Bubo

    Bubo Super Member ECF Veteran

    My tubes are 3/32 and 1/16 of an inch..... I have no idea what gauge that would be - but I figured out a work around...
    I took a center post from an atty connector and flipped it around and stuck it on the needle, kinda like an arrowhead. In theory - it should work well, but I have to keep taking it all apart to get the right length - half a millimeter at a time - so more tomorrow night...

    On another note - for the first time ever - I couldn't get a negative connection! Positive worked great through the 'needle' - but the aluminum pill fob is covered in something, clear coat or a aluminum colored anodization.... And why would you paint aluminum an aluminum color?!?!?!? Sheesh... So I have to get that off of there if I want to use the o-ring.... I would have thought that the threads would conduct a charge - but noooooo...... :-(
     
  7. Bubo

    Bubo Super Member ECF Veteran

    Okay boys and girls...
    Thanks to MisterD and Scubabatdan, and EVERYONE else on here (Okay, mostly Dan's "Didn't anyone else ever make one of these?" question way back several hundred posts ago...) Here's mine:

    Attached to my current NicoBox:
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    By itself:
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    Bottom Shot:
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    Top shot - see the inner 'needle' connector?
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    Top off:
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    The "Needle" - Mine is brass (It's what I have lots of); and you should be able to see the top "Arrow Head" thing....
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    In bits and pieces
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    And no, I haven't' used it yet, its still flaky with the negative connection, I used a tiny dremel wire brush - but couldn't clean the threads off enough to make it 100% yet; so I am wiggling and playing with it.. (And looking at it... It's Shiny!) :lol:
     
  8. nicotime

    nicotime Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 22, 2009
    Montoursville, PA
    Looking good Bubo!

    One note...if something is anodized you wont get a good electrical connection as it is an oxide. I had to machine many parts after they got back from being anodized to cut a spot for ground connections.

    The anodized surface is only a few thousandths thick.
     
  9. Bubo

    Bubo Super Member ECF Veteran

    Yeah - I know that's my problem - but if I want to keep the o-ring - the only place I can think of to 'wear off' is the threading.. and I can't figure out how to do it with out re-tapping them....

    PS -Love the avatar!
     
  10. asdaq

    asdaq Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Bubo, looking good! I found filing and sanding the threads rather so so, much more effective I found to use a swiss army knife blade. For the fob, sticking the tip of the knife in the thread wioth light pressure and rotating along the thread, and for the cap, pinching the blade against the thumb with the lid in between and rotating. You just want to score it lightly, not remove material of any sizable amount. Goodness, that isn't a MV https://www.madvapes.com/510-Battery-Connector-Gold-Large-Hole_p_2562.html is it? Huge hole, but looks like it will do. You've done a nice job of corking up the hole and it looks to have the connection, my only concern is that air can't get back in the fob past the 'arrowhead'. If so, you can score a thin line (or 4 to match the crosshatch connector design) along the length of the arrowhead to create an air passage. Can't wait to see your review of it working :)
     
  11. Persis

    Persis Senior Member ECF Veteran

    excelent job bubo :thumbs:, looks very nice...

    I am waiting comments of how it works, and for how do you solved the air passage.
     
  12. Circumspice

    Circumspice Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 2, 2009
    God's Country
  13. asdaq

    asdaq Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Those would work fine, there's also 6 for 5.75 in the 'see also'. The 1/2" is a good fit with an AA size slot/battery too.
     
  14. Rothman

    Rothman Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 21, 2010
    Aviano, Italy
    Why did this thread die? This is one of the most amazing things I have seen for avid vapers. This is practically dripping without dripping, how could it get any better? I'm still trying to figure out how the air gets into the vial to replace the displaced liquid..... I have parts on order. This will be a fantastic add on for my Darwin!
     
  15. Scubabatdan

    Scubabatdan Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 14, 2009
    Dothan, AL
    Ahhh the good ol days, well I moved away from anything dealing with foriegn made parts and have been concentrating on rebuildable genisis atties. The latest is the DSUv6 which is actually an air and fluid adjustable rebuildable tank atty. Seemed to be the the logical step on becomming atty/carto independent. Why by a pack of 5 atty/cartos for 11 bucks when I can replace the coil for .01 cent.
    Dan
     
  16. Rothman

    Rothman Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 21, 2010
    Aviano, Italy
    Is there a thread on the new genesis atty? I remember going through the old thread several months back but never gave it much attention. Maybe I'll look into it. I'm a modder at heart, I've just been to busy lately to fart around with it.

    Did you have any leaking on the suckaton when it was laid over? I know that you closed the cap and sealed it via the o-ring but what I am concerned about is where the needle goes through the atty connector.
     
  17. Scubabatdan

    Scubabatdan Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 14, 2009
    Dothan, AL
    I did not have any leaking there if I remember LOL
    The main problem was the vacumn caused when the top of the res was tightened down with the o-ring. A small hole (1/32") drill into the top of the cap would allow air in to solve this but you would need ain insert or plug during transport to prevent leaking.

    Oh I did give you a link in the reply above to the DSUv6, just click on the words DSUv6, it will take you there.
    Dan
     
  18. Rothman

    Rothman Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Mar 21, 2010
    Aviano, Italy
  19. Dalton63841

    Dalton63841 Moved On

    Feb 14, 2011
    Maine
    I have only heard a couple references to the Suckaton since I joined here 7 months ago... Why is this thing not more popular? I am making one today! I LITERALLY just now found this.

    I know the rebuildable atomizer is great, but this seems like something I definitely want in my vaping arsenal.
     
  20. asdaq

    asdaq Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I think it is pretty much replaced by genisis atties and various carto tank versions. But, it still beats the average bottom feeder setup. :D
     
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