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tube juice feeding???

Discussion in 'Bottom Feeder Mods' started by misterD, Jun 2, 2010.

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  1. misterD

    misterD Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    i'm hoping to seal this tube and fill it with juice. insert a tube that's gonna go from the reservoir to the atty and hope its gonna feed as you draw. its probably not gonna work but maybe someone smarter than me (who isn't?) would be able to make a decent one that works.
    question:
    what can i use to seal this thing? food friendly and PG resistant. thanks for bearing with me!:vapor:
     
  2. dreams n chains

    dreams n chains Super Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 7, 2009
    Florida
    I promised myself I would not step out into other threads as I seem to be getting myself in trouble lately.... :rolleyes:... but here I am.

    According to the manufacturers website... JB Weld is non toxic when dry:

    J-B Weld Company - Frequently Asked Questions

    I also have some QuickSteel (steel-reinforced epoxy putty) sitting here that states on the label; "Drinking water safe".

    Both of these can be used to repair water tanks, faucets and water pipe.... so.... I would guess that these would be safe. We know they can take heat and we know they are chemical resistant.
     
  3. nicotime

    nicotime Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 22, 2009
    Montoursville, PA
    If its sealed like a can with a straw coming up nothing will flow...you would need to have an air bleed to replace the fluid...unless I not seeing it right. And yeah...what Dreamy said the only thing I can think of.

    Dreamy....nobody here is better than anyone else...speak your mind whenever you want and if they dont like it tough shyt...they have a big X on the upper right screen.

    Yeah there he goes again...Sorry...:offtopic: :D
     
  4. misterD

    misterD Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    i got some of that but i decided to go with gorilla. their website states that its toxic free as long as it's fully cured (24 hours)
    yeah! you got a point there :blink: we'll see how it goes...
    thanks, nice peeps!
     
  5. Sci

    Sci Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 12, 2009
    Al
    It looks like you've got the sealant part covered, what kind of atty are you using? I'm asking because of air flow. If all of the air is being drawn from a hole in the atty, it will be tough getting enough of a suction through the tube to bring liquid up? Also, you may need to poke a hold in your juice bottle to replace the space where the juice was or the bottle would look like those vacuum sealers you see on TV.:)
    You'll need to make sure that no air can come in around the tube coming up through the connector.
    I'm basically thinking out loud here, I hope I'm hitting on something that helps. I'd like to see you get this working. It's a great idea!
     
  6. misterD

    misterD Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    im gonna have to re-do it cos i messed up the + connection :(
    another one to the pile of things to get done and my day off is gone so have no idea when im gonna get back to it.
     
  7. Sci

    Sci Super Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 12, 2009
    Al
    Bummer. Let us know when you get back into it.
     
  8. asdaq

    asdaq Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    I hope you get back to it too. As for the air valve it seems you would want to be able to open and close it too, to prevent leakage, say overnight.
     
  9. misterD

    misterD Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    im back to where i was b4 i effed up the + connection. have to seal the thing and this time i'll be using JB weld. i let go the atomizer tubing and using now a pill fob i got from harbor freight (think its the same one tinear used on BOB). im kinda skeptical about this thing actually working but at least it looks cool :2cool:
     
  10. v1John

    v1John Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Mar 23, 2010
    va
    How about a button that causes a ketchup-bag-like juice container inside to squeeze a drop at a time to a wick waiting at the tip of the reservoir bag?

    Or that adaptor-like thing could actually be two components, one of which is a ring which you turn, and every time you turn it once, it moves a threaded part inside which squeezes out juice 3 drops per turn onto a wick waiting for juice at the tip?
     
  11. misterD

    misterD Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    i think that a thing like this can work like an AFS (GG style) but you dont need to drill a hole into the atomizer cos it feeds from the bottom as you draw and if there was a screw that you could close or lose it would adjust the draw needed based on the juice viscosity...
     
  12. v1John

    v1John Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Mar 23, 2010
    va
    How does GG do it? Is there a diagram or pic?
     
  13. misterD

    misterD Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

  14. misterD

    misterD Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    a few more pictures.
    i have a filling that if there was a mini screw to regulate the flow it'd actually work. something like sprinkle cheese that if you want lots of it you open wide and if you're not in a mood you open just a little...:p
     
  15. asdaq

    asdaq Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Oh my I can see this coming along nicely. MisterD, you already have 2 screws here, one on the battery side and on on the atty side-- your threads on the connectors. Juice is non conductive, so feeding the very bottom of the atty connector is ok. OK, so air is allowed in on the battery side, but just a bit. On the atty side, when you tighten the atty, you mostly seal the connection, thus "drinking up" some juice from the tube by taking a stiffer draw. Then to actually vape, just back off the atty in its threads and allow air back in the system. Very adjustable and quite easy to regulate on the go

    Someone else has something like this going on and mentioned "needle valve" and "carburetor" but I think he's busy out on a boat with a 2.3ml resevoir:2cool::2cool:.

    I'm very glad you got back to this , you've made my morning:toast:
     
  16. dreams n chains

    dreams n chains Super Member ECF Veteran

    Nov 7, 2009
    Florida
    Wow.... MisterD...... damn sharp mod you got going! :thumb:

    More power to you!
     
  17. Scottbee

    Scottbee Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Sep 18, 2009
    Okauchee Lake, WI
  18. Scottbee

    Scottbee Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Sep 18, 2009
    Okauchee Lake, WI
    Thank Gawd he is on a boat with an Internet connection.... eh?

    ;)
     
  19. misterD

    misterD Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    thanks, nice peeps!
    @ Scottbee - i've sure been to yours dream PV thread and never got to understand how in the heck you had a reservoir going on or how did that worked (it was even more a mistery to me cos i didnt know an AFS GG existed). i wish you could tell us how you did it on some sort of tutorial (the rotating filling port and all).
     
  20. asdaq

    asdaq Vaping Master Verified Member ECF Veteran

    misterd, I really believe you are close with this, and being as scottbee took time off from navigating his well equipped craft to pop in for a visit, I think even more so.

    The pill fob is great, I've been thinking of those and portable ashtrays for a mod body. also, another way to go with this (if nothing else conceptually, you've already got a working model) take a dead atty, gut it except for the tube and connector to the battery, and then put a battery connector on the other end, much like you've got. I'm thinking in terms of 501's and I think you have 901's??

    Anyhow I'm curious how you connect the positive terminals? A wire seems a natural choice, but you could try a spring or the feeder tube as well...
     
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