Ughhhhhhh help

[Aaaadri]

My boyfriend isn't convince vaping is safe. He thinks nicotine is bad for you because it's addictive but really who cares? Caffeine is addictive! Anyways does anyone have any scientific links that I can show him so he stops hating on my ecig? Lol I'd give this thing up for him if I had to but I REALLLLLLY don't wanna!

 

[caffeinator]

The InfoZone has some basic info: ECF Forum

So, he thinks smoking would be better for you??? Not.

vaping juice has maybe 4-5 ingredients, all of which are FDA safe, now compare that with the thousands of poisons like arsenic in a cigarette.

Plus, unlike cigs, you can adjust your nic level with vaping...right down to 0mg if you so wanted.
IMHO, it's your life, not his. Sounds more like a control issue than a health one.

 

[Aaaadri]

He just wants me off nicotine completely idk he's not controlling at all he just doesn't believe that there's nothing wrong with vaping like wtf lol

 

[DaveP]

I'm assuming he isn't a smoker and your vaping represents something he doesn't care for. Nic is addictive, but you only get 10% to 30% of the nic from an ecig that you got from tobacco. You also aren't getting 3000-4000 other chemicals you inhaled from tobacco. You aren't creating side stream smoke and the vapor you exhale only contains about 2% of the nicotine you inhaled from the ecig. Your house, your clothes, and YOU will not smell like smoke if you vape. The ecig isn't better for you than not using nic at all, but it's light years better than smoking.

The basic chemicals in ecig juice are PG and or VG, cake and candy flavorings (or tobacco flavors), water, and a variable nicotine base. Nicotine is about as bad for you as caffeine. Nicotine has been shown to help with memory problems in patients who suffer from that. PG is used as an agent in hospital ventilation systems to capture germs in the air and float them down to the floor where they can be mopped away. People in hospitals inhale a certain amount of PG mist every day, all day and so do the patients. It's used to create mist in respiratory treatments given to patients to deliver medications to heal the lungs and open airways. PG is in hundreds, maybe thousands of foods we eat, things we rub on our skin, it's in our toothpaste, and it's in soft drinks. It's also used as a thickener in the juice that they pour on ice to make snowballs at kids outings. The FDA classifies it as GRAS (generally recommended as safe) for human consumption.

 

[caffeinator]

He just wants me off nicotine completely idk he's not controlling at all

Well, that sentence contradicts itself...

I don't know your situation or age range, but as an adult, I choose what I do. Not my partner. Just saying. =)

 

[Hoosier]

Me, myself, and I would chuck all this CASAA Printable Material at an SO that acted like that while I was walking out the door.

Obviously we have different tolerance levels...

 

[DaveP]

I wouldn't give up vaping unless he gave up something that he really, really enjoys that you don't care for. It doesn't need to be one sided. On second thought, I would just educate him and tell him to live with it if that's what you want to do. We all deserve a few pleasures in life that other people don't understand.

 

[tj99959]

Well I don't know how you will ever get completely off nicotine since it is in about everything you eat. There is no such thing as an edible fruit or vegetable that does not contain at least some nicotine. It is a natural occurring substance in all plant life. The tobacco plant just contains a higher concentration of it is all. No different than some plants contain more sugar than others.
Health wise, the sugar can be worse than the nicotine.

I have always gotten a kick out of people that say "don't smoke' .... while they drink a coke.

 

[erictho]

just do some google scholar searches for studies discussing the effects of nicotine and point them his way. while my so really doesn't always appreciate my vaping, he knows it's better than smoking for both him and myself.
when i was smoking he was occasionally bumming smokes from me, his friend, and would more often buy a pack of smokes or cigars. now he buys a pack of cigars occasionally when he knows he will be drinking. instead of smoking an entire cigarillo he will smoke them in thirds and rarely ever finish the pack. when i was still smoking and we were drinking it was not uncommon for him to finish a pack of 25 with a friend and go out for more, or an entire 2 packs of cigarillos.
so ya, it's better for all of us now that i'm not happily chain smoking away.

 

[the_vape_nerd]

this is a realtionship issue not a vaping issue

i agree with the others here who've said its a control issue

what if you decided unilaterally that he couldnt have coffee? or coke? or tomatoes? tomatoes have nicotine, sorry buddy no more pizza for you

 

[caffeinator]

Pic related?

 

[Huuwap]

I'm not convinced it's as bad as some of you seem to believe it is. It's perfectly OK for couples to have concerns about each other's health, and she's asking for some sort of evidence to calm his concerns.

That said, there is a lot of info out there and erictho mentioned a good method of finding it.

 

[caffeinator]

I'm not convinced it's as bad as some of you seem to believe it is. It's perfectly OK for couples to have concerns about each other's health, and she's asking for some sort of evidence to calm his concerns.

I agree, but lets switch around the gender roles and see how that'd work....

They sound young anyways. So who knows. I think the simple issue of her being able to vape if she wants to is valid for HER health and happiness. If he cares about her, he'll support her, not tell her what he wants. Maybe it's communication that is the problem? We'll find out now that she has the proper facts to give him.

I'm glad that at my age, I'm going to do whatever the hell *I* want to do and my cat doesn't get to complain.

 

[Huuwap]

I'm not sure how to take the gender roles comment, but I'm somewhat offended that it was even brought up TBH.

You never get what you want if you don't state it. I want you to be healthy is a perfectly valid concern. Using nicotine is not as healthy as not using it. Intentionally inhaling anything of any sort in and of itself is a concern. More worrisome than the nicotine is the long-term safety of propylene glycol and vegetable glycerin, but in most of our minds those risks are worth it when compared to an alternative of combustion (and rightly so). There is not enough info provided to damn their relationship is what I'm saying, and I think it's out of line for suggestions of "leave his sexist ..." to even be insinuated subtly.

The bottom line is that general perception towards e-cigarettes/vaporizers is negative, and it takes education to break that perception. If I was in his shoes and I hadn't heard anything about vaporizers other than what was on the news, I'd likely voice concern as well...but because I'm not a very trusting individual, especially when it comes to general opinion, I'd be doing research on it as well. That said, not everybody is the same, and if scientific data/studies is what will do the trick to open his mind to it that's perfectly fine.

Offer personal experiences with your vaporizer and liquids, offer links to scientific data as requested in the OP, but please don't try to damn a relationship based on a paragraph that doesn't even touch on whether he's being any more than concerned. Obviously if she posted that her boyfriend was going to leave her if she didn't quit, I'd have an entirely different opinion, but "I'd give this thing up for him if I have to..." doesn't say anything more to me than the OP assuming the worst, that he would leave her over something so petty, and when emotions are involved the irrational and rational tend to bleed a bit...especially when mixed up with a stressful situation such as quitting smoking.

Let's try and help this lady out without telling her to walk out please. I can't think of a better way to get her to go to the corner store for a pack of smokes.

 

[AuBadge]

My boyfriend isn't convince vaping is safe. He thinks nicotine is bad for you because it's addictive but really who cares? Caffeine is addictive! Anyways does anyone have any scientific links that I can show him so he stops hating on my ecig? Lol I'd give this thing up for him if I had to but I REALLLLLLY don't wanna!

I wouldn't give up my "things" for love or money. I hope you won't, either.

 

[ohai]

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I'm glad that at my age, I'm going to do whatever the hell *I* want to do and my cat doesn't get to complain.

That's some mighty brave talk there, and I'm not entirely convinced it's true... just sayin'.

 

[jch419]

My boyfriend isn't convince vaping is safe. He thinks nicotine is bad for you because it's addictive but really who cares? Caffeine is addictive! Anyways does anyone have any scientific links that I can show him so he stops hating on my ecig? Lol I'd give this thing up for him if I had to but I REALLLLLLY don't wanna!

Well, I would just say that it's got to be better than the 400-500 chemicals not including tar and smoke that are found in traditional cigarettes---plus it's 90% cheaper to vape than it is to smoke. You know yourself better than anyone else, and if the vaping is keeping you away from tobacco-products, VAPE ON! Vaping is a great alternative that you should keep part of your life as long as YOU enjoy it. Don't change yourself for anyone. He will understand if you explain it to him and just educate him more about it, tell him to check out the ECF! I agree that caffeine is an equal 'addiction'. I prefer to call it a habit, lol.

 

[caffeinator]

That's some mighty brave talk there, and I'm not entirely convinced it's true... just sayin'.

LOL....

Yeah, I do dote on her, she's mah babee. But, I'm still the Human around here. The One Who Pays the Rent, Brings Food and Changes Litter.

 

[Aaaadri]

Lol WOWWW thanks for the links everyone. And to clarify It really was a "I'm concerned about you and think nicotine is bad because cigarettes are bad" type of thing but now it's all good there was no ultimatum just general concern that nic is "bad". I just wanted scientific evidence to back it up
Thanks again lol

 

[caffeinator]

Lol WOWWW thanks for the links everyone. And to clarify It really was a "I'm concerned about you and think nicotine is bad because cigarettes are bad" type of thing but now it's all good there was no ultimatum just general concern that nic is "bad". I just wanted scientific evidence to back it up
Thanks again lol

Good to know and happy we could help out. Sorry if things got a bit out hand in the process.

Best of luck vaping!