yeah i was tilt feeding it with a bottle with success. 3 drops tilted , let it seep in, 3 more drops etc...
2nd Edition Cartomizers - Won't sell to US now !!!
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yeah i was tilt feeding it with a bottle with success. 3 drops tilted , let it seep in, 3 more drops etc...
It's not suppose to be removed, that's why it's usually glued in place.
The KR808 cartos I received were all filled with RY04. A lot of people I know that smoke analogs seem to really like the RY04.
That's right, yello266.
Ok, nav, well it's a good smoke like flavor, I'll see what the smokers I know think. I'm sending bad a few in a while to check also.
That's why they make small prying tools.
I make sure I put 'em back the way they came out, but they're harder to clean if you don't take that inner cap out first. If it affects the performance I can't tell it.
That's why they make small prying tools.
I make sure I put 'em back the way they came out, but they're harder to clean if you don't take that inner cap out first. If it affects the performance I can't tell it.
when reinserting the inner plug, after pressing it down towards the cup, use some tool to press down at the edges of the inner cup and go around the whole cup, doing this will set the inner cup flush.
the needle I have doesn't fit well in the first e2 (MiT 402s) so I use a drywall screw . Thread to remove center, head to replace it. The phillips head fits the tube well, until I can get a smaller needle.
Well the instructions said they suggest not to refill more than 4 times, so they're really only meant to be used 5 times.
5 times at a dollar a piece (76cents+shipping) makes it about 20 cents per fill-up, that's about the price of a cigarette .....
So I really don't think it's worth the trouble cleaning them, especially if I already refilled one 7 times. I think cleaning them is a habit carried over from the days when I used to pay 2 dollars a carto that would sometimes malfunction in some way within the first one or two re-fills.
Two 30-packs of these good cartos at 4 re-fills, equals 60 cartos x 5 full uses=300 full uses.
5 times at a dollar a piece (76cents+shipping) makes it about 20 cents per fill-up, that's about the price of a cigarette .....
So I really don't think it's worth the trouble cleaning them, especially if I already refilled one 7 times. I think cleaning them is a habit carried over from the days when I used to pay 2 dollars a carto that would sometimes malfunction in some way within the first one or two re-fills.
Two 30-packs of these good cartos at 4 re-fills, equals 60 cartos x 5 full uses=300 full uses.
I was wrong about some of my earlier statements concerning the threaded fittings of the 2nd Edition cartomizers. That's what I get for making snap judgements about a product before it has been properly tested. I was wrong when I said that the "screwdriver" slot in the center post of my fittings are useless. They are needed for the ones I have, but they are not needed for an original Joye 510 fitting. Actually, it is not necessary for me to correct myself at this point if a revised version corrects the fitting issue, but an explanation may be in order so that we can identify a correct one in the future.
All 510 fittings that I know of have two small holes in the thread body (located between the bottom of the threads and the base). These two holes go INSIDE the chamber of a Joye 510 atomizer or cartomizer. On the copycat 510 fittings that I have seen (including the E-2), these two holes go to the space in between the center post and the outer threaded shell. Therefore, an air passage similar to a KR8 fitting is required on my E-2's.
This difference can lead to problems under certain conditions, especially with some of the thread adapters that are available now. Many of us knew about different adapter problems before the 2nd Edition cartomizers were released and now we are seeing another example of what can happen without a universal standard.
Out of my package of five, three fittings appear to have come from a different batch than the other two. They have different compatibility issues, but I don't see a need of going into their details at this time.
On another note. For the most part, I am only using one E-2 at this time. A black deposit was noted on the coil after the first filling was depleted. I have allowed it to build up since then, hoping that my liquid will be heated at a lower temperature. So far, it seems to be working as planned. The taste is a bit better on a fresh fill and seems to be holding in there longer. My puffs are still short like smoking a cigarette and the vapor is still good. As long as it keeps getting better, I will not do a dry burn. Maybe the 2.5 ohm resistance at my sissy 3 volts is not all that bad after all.
Every now and then I try one of my old carts. I will not be buying anymore of them.
All 510 fittings that I know of have two small holes in the thread body (located between the bottom of the threads and the base). These two holes go INSIDE the chamber of a Joye 510 atomizer or cartomizer. On the copycat 510 fittings that I have seen (including the E-2), these two holes go to the space in between the center post and the outer threaded shell. Therefore, an air passage similar to a KR8 fitting is required on my E-2's.
This difference can lead to problems under certain conditions, especially with some of the thread adapters that are available now. Many of us knew about different adapter problems before the 2nd Edition cartomizers were released and now we are seeing another example of what can happen without a universal standard.
Out of my package of five, three fittings appear to have come from a different batch than the other two. They have different compatibility issues, but I don't see a need of going into their details at this time.
On another note. For the most part, I am only using one E-2 at this time. A black deposit was noted on the coil after the first filling was depleted. I have allowed it to build up since then, hoping that my liquid will be heated at a lower temperature. So far, it seems to be working as planned. The taste is a bit better on a fresh fill and seems to be holding in there longer. My puffs are still short like smoking a cigarette and the vapor is still good. As long as it keeps getting better, I will not do a dry burn. Maybe the 2.5 ohm resistance at my sissy 3 volts is not all that bad after all.
Every now and then I try one of my old carts. I will not be buying anymore of them.
when you gunk one up, hot water soak, dry burn, youll be surprised.
The same thing happen to me BR, i tried my old cartos and yuck. i packed everything into a box with the rest of the stuff ill never touch again thanks to the e2.(saved a few LR atomizers and some regualr and hv for a rainy)
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I would expect a black deposit on the coil to result in lower temps outside of the coating and at the same time, higher temps inside the coating. You would be insulating the coil wire and it may decrease it's life. Having the coil wire exposed to the air and especially vaporizing liquid has a significant cooling effect on it. That's why when you do a "dry" burn it gets glowing hot.
Well v1John, any man worth his salt will throw the instructions away when he buys something new. He is only supposed to dig them out of the garbage after everything gets all fouled up.
Maybe what needs to follow is the cap.
Look at the battery end of a kr808d1 carto, if we could drill 2 small holes on the edge, and make the center one just slightly bigger, it could then replace the inner cap all together. No more glue, no more nothing, these metal caps could be crimped in place.
Underneath the caps they caould have a small, oval shaped, silicone o-ring, a thin one, basically just a factory spacer-washer.
Then you have your regular mouthpiece cap, or you could even use a 901 whistle on the 510 cartos, I just found out it fits it well if someone wants them they can use them.
For the future, the whistle could be designed to allow the airflow in the center, with filler around it holding the flavoring, menthol, ry04 enhancers, berries, whatever.
what do you all think?
Look at the battery end of a kr808d1 carto, if we could drill 2 small holes on the edge, and make the center one just slightly bigger, it could then replace the inner cap all together. No more glue, no more nothing, these metal caps could be crimped in place.
Underneath the caps they caould have a small, oval shaped, silicone o-ring, a thin one, basically just a factory spacer-washer.
Then you have your regular mouthpiece cap, or you could even use a 901 whistle on the 510 cartos, I just found out it fits it well if someone wants them they can use them.
For the future, the whistle could be designed to allow the airflow in the center, with filler around it holding the flavoring, menthol, ry04 enhancers, berries, whatever.
what do you all think?
That's not what I expect, but we'll see. I believe the coil will be slower to heat up because of the deposit, but I ain't a rocket scientist. Even if it pops because of the way I am treating it, then it will just be part of the testing.
20 times
!Well, yes, they can last more than 5 times. If they want to that's fine, but I just don't see the need to have to wash them after they're worth a cigarette .... (financially). That's what I meant in the post.
The principle here is that people would no longer need flavoring in the reservoir going through the wick and coil. It should work for many flavors, the flavor would be inside the 901 whistle (or round piece). You could use one basic liquid and quite a variety of flavor tips should be able to work with it (that you can also refill if you want).
The juice I'm using (tobacco/menthol) is particularly gunky, so much so that I can't even get 5 refills with these without burning the coil off. Regardless of that, they clean up well, and I see no reason why you wouldn't want to extend the life of these 2-3 fold as long as there's no loss of flavor.
The carto I killed had a sizeable piece of black gunk in the center of the coil that just didn't want to come off. If I hadn't let it get that bad before I attempted to clean it my guess is I'd probably still be using it (but that's just a guess).
I started to post something earlier today. I've been switching back and forth between these CE2's and my old standard cartos. The difference in taste is absolutely amazing. I still have a ton of regular 808D-1 and 510 cartos I bought in bulk from Heaven-gifts and Eastmall, but from now on they'll be strictly used for backups and giving away to friends who want to switch to e-cigs.
I've read the complaints about these new cartos and I'm sorry some have had a bad experience, but I'm sold. I predict these will be the standard in cartos in less than 3 months (unless somebody comes out with something newer/better).
Edit: Got my 510/401 adapters from MadVapes today. The M-series cartos on the Little Sister (at low voltage) taste as good as the 510's. Mmm... tasty!
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