#500 SS Mesh

[BJ43]

An example of a common false that is all over ECF.

It was explained to me that the mesh size depends on the PG/VG content of you juice.
(Rough ratios)
250-- 100-50/50 higher VG
325-- 70/30-60/40 PG/VG
400-- 100-80/20 higher PG

Proven scientifically:
Viscosty doesn't matter and 325 will not wick better than 400 or 500.

comparing oranges to oranges
PG will rise higher in a 400 mesh than on a 325 mesh.
Vg will rise higher in a 400 mesh than on a 325 mesh.
On the same 400 wick PG will rise higher than VG because of cohesion forces, but it will not rise higher on 325 than on 400,
All will rise higher and faster on #500

 

[Turbo]

I have to admit 'b', before your findings here, I was under the same misconceptions as you pointed out. Since I don't use any VG in my juice, I always just assumed it was right. Thanks for taking the time to do these experiments.

 

[*ASH*]

hi there
I've just get mine today but I got 2 Sheet , but sorry for that am not so good with that witch one is the 500 and what is the second one ??
I thought the 500 is the one that is heavey than other and it's look more to silver. Am I right ? and what is the second 400 or 325 ??

 

[vapspaz]

A wise man once said the easiest way is to simply hold it up to the light. 500 will block more light out than 400 or 325.

 

[BJ43]

hi there
I've just get mine today but I got 2 Sheet , but sorry for that am not so good with that witch one is the 500 and what is the second one ??
I thought the 500 is the one that is heavey than other and it's look more to silver. Am I right ? and what is the second 400 or 325 ??

Besides the light tip, they usually write in pencil the mesh size at one of the corners.

 

[*ASH*]

So am right as there is only one with wright on corner so am not sure what is the second. and am right it's th one more to silver the line so close so it's block to see what is behined it and block light.

 

[Jimi D.]

Hey BJ, I have a question for you kind Sir. What would happen if I placed a piece of silica wick as the center for the SS mesh? Thanks.

 

[RedFox]

Hey BJ, I have a question for you kind Sir. What would happen if I placed a piece of silica wick as the center for the SS mesh? Thanks.

I thought about this the other day. The main reason not to use silica is to avoid the micro fibers that come off, but if it were wrapped in SS mesh then you would be avoiding that. I too am curious if this would work.

 

[tmcase]

Hey BJ, I have a question for you kind Sir. What would happen if I placed a piece of silica wick as the center for the SS mesh? Thanks.

I tried this but it didn't wick worth But then I've been having nothing but wicking problems.

Edit: I used cotton rather than silica.

 

[Jimi D.]

I tried this but it didn't wick worth But then I've been having nothing but wicking problems.

Edit: I used cotton rather than silica.

I need to fold the mesh so the burrs bind to the silica and make it very tight. Its worth a shot.

 

[Dyanna]

Thank you BJ for this "Game Changing" thread!
thanks to my friend Pega for sharing the link to this thread
and thanks to all who contributed their knowledge & humor

about 25 pages into the thread -- we(my brother & I) were sold & placed our order, while we process, de-program & prepare our rolling fingers being a perfectionist that he is my brother has 2 areas he would like to "be absoultly certain about":

1) "how does 1 go about doing the 'counter-sinking'?"
2) "will a plugged fill hole inhibit the capillary action?"

TIA for the answers & please don't cut off our rolling fingers if these 2 questions have already been answered


P.S. because my brother has no ECF account -- I did the "like"s for the both of us

 

[Semi Reduction]

I have to admit 'b', before your findings here, I was under the same misconceptions as you pointed out. Since I don't use any VG in my juice, I always just assumed it was right. Thanks for taking the time to do these experiments.

Yea we all were mate. Took the crazy brain of BJ to turn it all upside down. It's funny because when you take the time to think about it, it makes perfect sense. If I was goop, no doubt it would be easier to make my way up lots of smaller holes than larger ones.

 

[BJ43]

Thank you BJ for this "Game Changing" thread!
thanks to my friend Pega for sharing the link to this thread
and thanks to all who contributed their knowledge & humor

about 25 pages into the thread -- we(my brother & I) were sold & placed our order, while we process, de-program & prepare our rolling fingers being a perfectionist that he is my brother has 2 areas he would like to "be absoultly certain about":

1) "how does 1 go about doing the 'counter-sinking'?"
2) "will a plugged fill hole inhibit the capillary action?"

TIA for the answers & please don't cut off our rolling fingers if these 2 questions have already been answered


P.S. because my brother has no ECF account -- I did the "like"s for the both of us

I have never done any counter sinking on mine. Unless you have a very thick cap it is not necessary, but there are many cone shaped dremel diamond bits that will do it. A plugged fill hole can effect capillary action especially for people that do long draws and chain vape. A vacuum can form in the tank that wants to draw the juice back down. I always keep a fill hole open to balance the pressure in the tank. You can reduce it to a minimum size if you fear leaks. I have not had any problem with leaks just leaving them open, but I don't lay mine horizontal for long.

 

[Dyanna]

I have never done any counter sinking on mine. Unless you have a very thick cap it is not necessary, but there are many cone shaped dremel diamond bits that will do it. A plugged fill hole can effect capillary action especially for people that do long draws and chain vape. A vacuum can form in the tank that wants to draw the juice back down. I always keep a fill hole open to balance the pressure in the tank. You can reduce it to a minimum size if you fear leaks. I have not had any problem with leaks just leaving them open, but I don't lay mine horizontal for long.

thanks BJ for the answers "cone shaped dremel diamond bits" added to my brother's Home Depot shopping list as for the fill holes -- I use the tips of toothpicks for mine & my brother uses small pieces of mesh for his, I take that for optimal wicking -- they'll have to go then how about use pieces of lowered #ed mesh that have bigger opening areas, ie:270, 250 or 200 mesh... can they be used to keep the leaking to a minimum & still give enough breathing room? just wondering

 

[Lentulusbatiatus]

I know you've pointed it out more than once in this thread that your tests are purely for wicking properties and makes perfect sense but have you tested these methods horizontally against looser wicks which i'm also assuming would allow gravitational flow more, I ask because I'd assume most people tip the PV's horizontally so that may be a more accurate test to see what real world usage of each wicking method would work best.

 

[C1BERUS]

Hey BJ, I have a question for you kind Sir. What would happen if I placed a piece of silica wick as the center for the SS mesh? Thanks.

On my 1st try on the dud, i using cotton on the center of the rolled mesh, it help wicking , but it cause the overflood too
using about 3cm wick and a bit of cotton on the center before i roll it, i dont know what cause the overflood, is the wick not tight or the cotton.

and then i found this 500 method, i change it to #500 lol...

 

[icucme2]

Now I am using a rather thick wick with 4/5 wrap of 30g kanthal. It seems like its taking a few seconds to heat up and produce thick vapor. If I chain vape it after my initial puff, it's fine. Is this normal?

Where can we grab some 30g kanthal?

 

[PEneoark]

Where can we grab some 30g kanthal?

Ebay dude

 

[RBTB]

What kind of ohms is anyone getting with the 30g----i'm getting 2.4--with a 4-3 wrap on 80 mm of 500

 

[icucme2]

couldnt find any on ebay.. just 32.. i heard 30 is better.. what do u guys think..?

Ebay dude