Am I the only person who has a problem with ppl making juice in their homes?

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rondasherrill

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I realize the imported nic meets the standards and I'm glad there are standards, I just prefer not to ingest anything from certain places. I certainly would not take any medication from those places.

Oh as a personal preference thing... I can see how that sucks. Word on the grape vine is that a US company for Nic base is to come, but it'll be a while. Not something that happens fast obviously.
 

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And I share your outrage, that there is something "special" about this consumer product which makes it a target of gov't greed. But as much as that completely pisses me off, I'm also a pragmatist, and a realist, and I understand that they have been used to this cash-flow for quite a while now, and the gov't depends on it -- you saw what happened when they couldn't balance the budget, they shut the whole thing down, and that cannot be tolerated -- as much as I hate it and long for anarchy, I realize that I am as dependent ion the gov't as they are dependent on those tobacco taxes. So if they need to recoup some part of what they are losing, I can, reluctantly, go along with it. But I really would like to see them transfer part of that 'sin taxing' to junk foods that have no nutritive value whatever; they keep hollering about "American Obesity," and it's literally everywhere, all over the place -- that's a far worse public health hazard now, than the declining morbidity and mortality as smokers switch to vaping.

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Me too. And honestly I'd secretly like to see some regulation on e cigs.

Unfortunately the powers that be have without exception that I'm aware of over stepped their bounds while simultaneously completely forgoing necessary regulation for safe practices in the quest for tax dollars, hand outs and profits.

Imagine a world where all foods are healthy except snacks. That voids nearly all the big players and nearly deletes super markets from today's infrastructure. Most food sales will be made in local markets like the days of yore. It would be completely impossible to trace and tax even half of what our country is currently inhaling as taxable income. I know food isn't a taxable item but wally world and supermarket employee incomes are. Let's not forget impulse items purchased while food shopping. Also let us not forget prepared food is taxable in certain situations.

That would be a big hit to the system moving towards healthy sustainable nutritious diets.

The same greedy system likely using regulation slight of hand as a ruse currently to limit product availability to split certain portions of the market between BT and BP and gain a sin tax foothold on the rest in the name of "the children", "people dying of cancer", etc..
 

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It sure will be nice to see that, I hope it happens. It would add a level of safety at least in my mind it would.
Yes or no. Not sure yet. Depends who runs and owns it. If it's BT or BP, I'll take my chances with China and black market. Rather buy from someone that might poison me than someone who is definitely going to... and get away with it... and charge me out the wazoo for the privilege.

Have you seen the price hike on cigs in the last decade and a half? That's us paying for the deaths caused by their products and the poisonous, addictive additives. Nothing more. Nothing less.
 

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I know what it means but I haven't been able to find a USA supplier that sells to the USA companies which leads me to believe that not only DIY but also USA companies are importing the nic, gross.

Get an Education before judgment:

USP Nicotine Solutions
USP Nicotine Solutions
Pure USP grade organic nicotine extract, USP grade Kosher certified Propylene Glycol and/or USP grade Kosher certified vegetable Glycerin carrier base fluid. Wizard Labs nicotine solutions contain no other preservatives or chemical additives.
Wizard Labs is an FDA registered facility located in South Florida, USA

http://www.nicselect.com/nicselect-advantages/

Edited - Removed USA listing. After reading a bit, I smell an RJR style Scaremongering Rat.

There is a simple solution - Abstinence:D
 
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Not according to ProVape...

I wonder if they have something set up to do it. There aren't any US manufacturers of nicotine base in the US on a commercial level.

EDIT: Maybe Provape is the reason why this one lowly company has sold out and has to redesign to ramp up production: http://usaliquidnicotine.com/
 
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I wonder if they have something set up to do it. There aren't any US manufacturers of nicotine base in the US on a commercial level.

My guess is nicotine is extracted in the US, just not on a large scale and not available to the general public. I don't know where Halo gets their nic, but it isn't from China, either.
 

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There's no need to be so rude, relax pal were having a discussion.

It is beyond the capabilities of some people to understand that not all things manufactured are available for purchase on eBay or Amazon...

I would think the big players- like ProVape, Halo and Johnson Creek simply extract their own in the lab which makes their e-liquid. Nicotine extraction from tobacco isn't rocket surgery.
 

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Not sure if it's gone to market yet. Will be interesting to see pricing and availability.

Agreed! I don't have anything at all against USP grade nicotine base, but having it actually come from the US would be a huge plus. I just hope the pricing isn't to outlandish, although I do expect it to be higher than we are used to paying.

It is beyond the capabilities of some people to understand that not all things manufactured are available for purchase on eBay or Amazon...

I would think the big players- like ProVape, Halo and Johnson Creek simply extract their own in the lab which makes their e-liquid. Nicotine extraction from tobacco isn't rocket surgery.

Yea that's what I was thinking(well about Provape. I have no experience with Halo or JC). Those companies can front the money to set up something like that just for the scale of their own sales.
 
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