Am I the only person who has a problem with ppl making juice in their homes?

[Sirius]

AHL makes their flavors in their "Kitchen" as Wald calls it. Then racks them at the mixing tables. Much care and cleanliness in the whole process.
I doubt your favorite hamburger joint takes the same care when cooking and making hamburgers. That's why I don't mind buying A+ juices.

 

[Sirius]

Just because you don't want them or find them appealing doesn't mean that some people don't feel differently. Some people may want their strawberry shortcake to be red. If there is a safe red coloring out there, why shouldn't the vendor have the choice to use it? Can the same appeal of flavor you made for food be argued based on appearance for liquids to some consumers?

In any case, absent some verified hazard, that should be the vendor's choice...not mine, not yours, not AEMSA's IMHO.

This is true. Would you eat a Strawberry that wasn't red?

 

[Mr.Mann]

On Ahlusion web site:
We strive to keep our mixes as clean, and clear as possible. Our e-liquids do not contain artificial colors, gum acacia, xantham gum, Citric Acid (CAS: 77-92-9), Diacetyl (CAS: 431-03-8), Acetoin (CAS: 513-86-0), Acetyl Propionyl (CAS: 600-14-6) , or Caffeine (CAS: 58-08-2).

Looks good.

From Ahlusion.

"Our mixing and bottling area is sealed and pressurized with a dual 3 stage HEPA filtered air system to control air pollutants down to 0.03 microns. Authorized personnel have to pass through a changing room (where full head to toe coverings and safety glasses are donned), followed by a pass-through air shower room before entering the main mixing area.

Our mixing and bottling room walls and ceiling are covered and sealed with fiber-reinforced plastic panels which are moisture resistant and washable. All work surfaces and storage areas are NSF approved stainless steel. Floors are also sealed and washable.

All work areas are sanitized on a daily basis through steam cleaning and approved cleaning agents.

All base flavors and L-Nicotine are stored in sealed dark glassware containers; Distilled water, USP Propylene Glycol, and USP Vegetable Glycerin are stored in FDA approved dispensing containers.

All measuring equipment meets NIST or ASTM specifications for accuracy and standards which includes all lab glassware (pipettes, burettes), measuring equipment and digital titrators."

I've seen the lab, but only through the window as no consumer (no matter how beloved, LOL) is able to enter that area. Notice, this is not an AEMSA member -- but their standards are way high. This is where I go to buy my eliquids. It's a vape shop.

 

[Krashman Von Stinkputin]

LOL, that WAS a good interlude. The E-bolah will be hot .

Just as a preview:
It's crimson-colored and we find it takes about 21 days to "steep" to perfection.

I'd tell you more but UPS is here to ship out our first 75 online orders, and one of our many ferral cats knocked over their kitty litter trough and I need to clear the piss biscuits off the counter. Not to mention, I cut my finger a few hours ago and I should probably get a new band-aid on it as this one's soaked through. Also I'm feeling a bit lightheaded and my vision is blurring.

But alas, I must soldier on cause I've got mucho back orders and alot of precise measuring and stuff to do.
A verp ship owrners werg is neber dun.

 

[Sirius]

Natural extracts by nature are not clear btw. Why would NET be clear?

 

[Sirius]

From Ahlusion.

"Our mixing and bottling area is sealed and pressurized with a dual 3 stage HEPA filtered air system to control air pollutants down to 0.03 microns. Authorized personnel have to pass through a changing room (where full head to toe coverings and safety glasses are donned), followed by a pass-through air shower room before entering the main mixing area.

Our mixing and bottling room walls and ceiling are covered and sealed with fiber-reinforced plastic panels which are moisture resistant and washable. All work surfaces and storage areas are NSF approved stainless steel. Floors are also sealed and washable.

All work areas are sanitized on a daily basis through steam cleaning and approved cleaning agents.

All base flavors and L-Nicotine are stored in sealed dark glassware containers; Distilled water, USP Propylene Glycol, and USP Vegetable Glycerin are stored in FDA approved dispensing containers.

All measuring equipment meets NIST or ASTM specifications for accuracy and standards which includes all lab glassware (pipettes, burettes), measuring equipment and digital titrators."

I've seen the lab, but only through the window as no consumer (no matter how beloved, LOL) is able to enter that area. Notice, this is not an AEMSA member -- but their standards are way high. This is where I go to buy my eliquids. It's a vape shop.

I couldn't help but post a couple of photos Mr. Mann..thnx for posting this though. Ahlusion is the only vendor I 100% trust.

 

[Mr.Mann]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/aroma-ejuice/327611-snorks-excellent-adventure.html

There is a blog post (along with a few photos) about a customer's visit to Aromaejuice lab (where they create their WTA liquids). Just some eiquid lab with remarkably high standards.

 

[Sirius]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/aroma-ejuice/327611-snorks-excellent-adventure.html

There is a blog post (along with a few photos) about a customer's visit to Aromaejuice lab (where they create their WTA liquids). Just some eiquid lab with remarkably high standards.

Yep..there are a few out there. I have yet to try Aroma WTA. Still a bit afraid I'll like it too much Mr. Mann.

 

[skoony]

From Ahlusion.

"Our mixing and bottling area is sealed and pressurized with a dual 3 stage HEPA filtered air system to control air pollutants down to 0.03 microns. Authorized personnel have to pass through a changing room (where full head to toe coverings and safety glasses are donned), followed by a pass-through air shower room before entering the main mixing area.

Our mixing and bottling room walls and ceiling are covered and sealed with fiber-reinforced plastic panels which are moisture resistant and washable. All work surfaces and storage areas are NSF approved stainless steel. Floors are also sealed and washable.

All work areas are sanitized on a daily basis through steam cleaning and approved cleaning agents.

All base flavors and L-Nicotine are stored in sealed dark glassware containers; Distilled water, USP Propylene Glycol, and USP Vegetable Glycerin are stored in FDA approved dispensing containers.

All measuring equipment meets NIST or ASTM specifications for accuracy and standards which includes all lab glassware (pipettes, burettes), measuring equipment and digital titrators."

I've seen the lab, but only through the window as no consumer (no matter how beloved, LOL) is able to enter that area. Notice, this is not an AEMSA member -- but their standards are way high. This is where I go to buy my eliquids. It's a vape shop.

woe!,
sounds good but that's just simply over kill.
love to see some pictures.

 

[AndriaD]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/aroma-ejuice/327611-snorks-excellent-adventure.html

There is a blog post (along with a few photos) about a customer's visit to Aromaejuice lab (where they create their WTA liquids). Just some eiquid lab with remarkably high standards.

That was quite edifying to read. I had wondered why WTA was so much more costly, now I know. Still cheaper than cigarettes though -- in every possible way.

I'd still love to know why the unflavored is 100% VG, why they can't make it 50/50.

Andria

 

[Mr.Mann]

That was quite edifying to read. I had wondered why WTA was so much more costly, now I know. Still cheaper than cigarettes though -- in every possible way.

I'd still love to know why the unflavored is 100% VG, why they can't make it 50/50.

Andria

Not a "can't". They can, but unfortunately for those that can't handle VG, they choose to do it that way. Unfortunately the amount of people that can't handle PG are in greater numbers, or at least that's how it seems. Though, I am not sure if it was a decision solely based on who can handle what as opposed to what was best for the product itself.

 

[AndriaD]

Not a "can't". They can, but unfortunately for those that can't handle VG, they choose to do it that way. Unfortunately the amount of people that can't handle PG are in greater numbers, or at least that's how it seems. Though, I am not sure if it was a decision solely based on who can handle what as opposed to what was best for the product itself.

I suppose so; those of us who can't handle much VG do seem to be a decided minority.

I get my unflavored from Wholecig in any case; it's just bit less expensive. I've decided that next time I'll get WholeCig's "Kiss of Sweet," in their 25mg strength, so I can add 20ml PG to the 10ml WTA, and wind up with 8.33mg, 67PG/33VG, much better levels on both, to mix with my sweet ejuices.

I've been buying Aroma's WTA-Virginia, but I'm finding tobacco flavors less and less pleasant these days. Still like the Virginia after meals, but all the rest of the time I seem to vape Blueberry Muffin/Banana Nut Bread (mixed), and at night, a Pipe Sauce called Long Bottom Leaf, which is a tobacco flavor, but a LOT sweeter than the Virginia I used to think was the end-all and be-all.

Andria

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Not being snarky but genuinely curious. What would you call proper labeling? What all would you like to see on labels to make them proper?

Please take into consideration the size of the labels and size of bottles.

I’m all for self regulated labeling. The main ingredients plus any of the “big 8” allergens, just as it is required on food, that are present in the flavorings used in that liquid. If diacetyl or one of the other lovelies is present, that should also be listed. All that protects the company’s secret sauce, consumers or their family members from unexpectedly going into anaphylaxis shock and those that want to avoid certain substances to do so. They don’t need to send out a pamphlet, just a simple line or two of text. It should also be listed on their website as a convince to customers.

I have juice that has “Nutrition Facts” on it with a serving size of two drops. I’m not eating the stuff and if they’d bothered to mention the common allergen in the freebie they kindly sent along, life around here would have been a lot simpler. I do not blame them, just a bad coincidence. People with diabetes, allergies and other sensitivities are quite used to looking out for themselves by reading the ingredients listings. It shouldn’t be a big deal, just common sense and good customer service.

I solved the problem with DIY. For people with Parkinson’s, severely diminished vision, arthritis and other debilitating ailments, it’s not as easy, if not impossible.

Yeah, that got long winded.

 

[Sirius]

The extreme view from one side is: keep it as is and separate the wheat from the chafe.

The extreme view on the other side: revamp the system and pray that we can keep the parts about it that we like.

It may help if people spent more time seeking the earnest vendors and less talking about vendors that they ought not purchase from. We have a middle ground right now -- the choice of a plethora of vendors. Choose according to your own standards. If they don't exist, you made your choice.

Ha! Love this post.

 

[Sirius]

Just as a preview:
It's crimson-colored and we find it takes about 21 days to "steep" to perfection.

I'd tell you more but UPS is here to ship out our first 75 online orders, and one of our many ferral cats knocked over their kitty litter trough and I need to clear the piss biscuits off the counter. Not to mention, I cut my finger a few hours ago and I should probably get a new band-aid on it as this one's soaked through. Also I'm feeling a bit lightheaded and my vision is blurring.

But alas, I must soldier on cause I've got mucho back orders and alot of precise measuring and stuff to do.
A verp ship owrners werg is neber dun.

This actually made me LOL .. Yep, I could see The Swedish Chief in that bit of humor.

 

[Coldrake]

woe!,
sounds good but that's just simply over kill.
love to see some pictures.

They have some photos on their site in the FAQ.

 

[klynnn]

I just don't know how I made it all these years cooking in my home kitchen. I guess I should have taken a college course like you youngsters since you seem to know everything without ever having functioned in real life. If you want everything you do mandated by someone else keep it up because that is where things are headed. You either sink or swim in life and I think most will sink.

 

[Sirius]

For those with phones:

AHLUSION MIXING AND BOTTLING AREA

 

[TamiP]

that made my sides hurt. LOL

 

[Sirius]

I just don't know how I made it all these years cooking in my home kitchen. I guess I should have taken a college course like you youngsters since you seem to know everything without ever having functioned in real life. If you want everything you do mandated by someone else keep it up because that is where things are headed. You either sink or swim in life and I think most will sink.

Klynnn -- I'm far from young but my DIY skills suck big time. If I could do better I would agree with you. I'm sure it won't be long and I will have to learn to do better. I feel online juice sales will be a thing of the past in 2 or less years.