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My nic from Liquid Barn is out for delivery with Fedex right now. Maybe the policies aren't consistently enforced?


No, obviously they aren't being enforced, everyone's getting their nic. :) But complications may arise in the future for past purchases. As I said, i have a post a few posts up about what happened to me with cigarette purchases - all happened after the fact.

I just got a shipment from HV this week. But the policy is in place and probably has been since the US clamped down on online cigarette sales back in the late 00s or so. And since the FDA now deems all vape products "tobacco products", vape is part of that policy.
 
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I know that they have been sued by states for delivering actual cigarettes from Indian Reservations and had to pay a fortune in what the state believed was the amount of lost tax revenue... But that probably would not be an issue with e-cigs until there is a federal tax (but some states do have taxes, not mine nor Oklahoma where heartland vapes is from thankfully).
I really hope you're right, the thought of paying taxes on nicotine that was not required to be taxed at the time of sale has me really worried now. There's no way I could pay those fees.
 

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Just so y'all know, UPS and fedex have a "no tobacco products" policy unless both the shipper and receiver are both licensed dealers. Just an FYI.

I've consistently been buying vaping products from several US vendors who've been shipping to me by both UPS and FedEx. I'm not a "dealer". Their business names also leave no doubt about what types of products are being shipped.

Also, I've read your posts in several different threads...about banks cracking down on, as you called them "tobacco" related purchases, through PP and/or by CC ...to delivery addresses in the US. I've personally not experienced any problems with that, with vaping related items. My purchases from VapeSourcing.com and many other Chinese companies and US vendors...have had no problem being processed through PP and/or my CC. So, I'm confused...by your posts regarding it.
 

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That’s just crazy!
When I had my last smoke on 4 May 2016 I was spending about 50 bucks/week on rollie tobacco. Even then it seemed over the top expensive. Now it's insane. The gov approach is to make it so expensive that all smokers give up. It's BS. A black market is flourishing and now smokers who are already vilified and outcast are being forced to break the law as well.
 

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I really hope you're right, the thought of paying taxes on nicotine that was not required to be taxed at the time of sale has me really worried now. There's no way I could pay those fees.
I do not think they can legally do that... Actually, I am confident they cannot. The situations with cigarettes were that existing taxes were not paid. Since there are no existing taxes on nic (with the exception of a few states), they cannot enforce something like that after the fact. That would be illegal and also insane.
 
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And since I’m obviously not going to get the Armageddon I’d ordered, I need to find another mech squonk to replace it in the stash. I have two Lunas already, REOs, Stentorian Rams, Athenas. Any diversification ideas would be appreciated. :)
A basic low cost 18650 mech squonker: Geek Vape Athena Squonk Kit
 

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I know that nicotine e-liquid is being regulated as a tobacco product now, but there are no state taxes YET on it here in Texas. On combustible tobacco, that's a different story. Considering that, would the state be able to tax me for a product I own, that was untaxed at the time of purchase? On cigarettes, I can see it, there are already laws in place requiring taxes be paid on them, so I see that circumventing those laws could be fined, and taxes collected. If you have cigars bought at say 5% tax (random %, not actual numbers) stocked in a humidor for personal use, and the tax went up to 15%, would you then assume the burden of paying more tax on them? No wonder there are tax lawyers, this stuff is beyond me. Good point on the tobacco product shipping rules, but what would that really mean as far as taxes are concerned? After taxation, I can see nicotine purchases being tracked, and penalties applied sure, that makes sense. I don't see it happening on pre-tax shipments, but I'm trying to be optimistic, this whole mess is frustrating.
 

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I know that nicotine e-liquid is being regulated as a tobacco product now, but there are no state taxes YET on it here in Texas. On combustable tobacco, that's a different story. Considering that, would the state be able to tax me for a product I own, that was untaxed at the time of purchase? On cigarettes, I can see it, there are already laws in place requiring taxes be paid on them, so I see that circumventing those laws could be fined, and taxes collected. If you have cigars bought at say 5% tax (random %, not actual numbers) stocked in a humidor for personal use, and the tax went up to 15%, would you then assume the burden of paying more tax on them? No wonder there are tax lawyers, this stuff is beyond me. Good point on the tobacco product shipping rules, but what would that really mean as far as taxes are concerned? After taxation, I can see nicotine purchases being tracked, and penalties applied sure, that makes sense. I don't see it happening on pre-tax shipments, but I'm trying to be optimistic, this whole mess is frustrating.
I edited my post as you were posting this.... lol
 

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I do not think they can legally do that... Actually, I am confident they cannot. The situations with cigarettes were that existing taxes were not paid. Since there are no existing taxes on nic (with the exception of a few states), they cannot enforce something like that after the fact. That would be illegal and also insane.
Just read your post after I posted. Ok calming down a little, whew!
 

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A basic low cost 18650 mech squonker: Geek Vape Athena Squonk Kit
Man you just saved me so much trouble. I have four now (just ordered two). Plus I have all the extra bottles. If I had known they were still in stock I would have done this a while ago. In the vapenw search they stopped showing up for me.
 

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And since I’m obviously not going to get the Armageddon I’d ordered, I need to find another mech squonk to replace it in the stash. I have two Lunas already, REOs, Stentorian Rams, Athenas. Any diversification ideas would be appreciated. :)
VV pulse 90??
 

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And since I’m obviously not going to get the Armageddon I’d ordered, I need to find another mech squonk to replace it in the stash. I have two Lunas already, REOs, Stentorian Rams, Athenas. Any diversification ideas would be appreciated. :)
Have you tried getting text or email alerts for the tracking? I had a package stalled for about two weeks at an”distribution center”. Once I signed up I every alert option given, it “miraculously” left for NOLA (aka, someone bothered to go look for it)
 

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