2.5 liters will last me 10 years. I'll have a second redundant 2.5 liters from a different vendor. If all 5 liters last indefinitely that's 20 years. 5 liters should fit easily in 1 cubic foot.
My long term nic is stored in the freezer in 1 liter amber glass bottles to save space. when it's time to open one it's divided into 4 250 ml bottles and stored in the freezer. When it's time to mix a 250 ml bottle comes out of the freezer, a measured amounnt is poored into a graduated cylinder then the bottle is returned to the freezer. this happens once a month. i don't wait for the nic to warm up. it takes a year to empty the bottle. I've emptied several and don't notice any color change over a year. The plan is 1 liter bottles are opened only once.
Okay...
Let's see if strawberry jam nic juice has the same track record, shall we?
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It all Depends on the kind of plastic tge bottles are made from.
No kids either. Still have room for pizza, bacon, ice & some spaghetti sauce
Opening the freezer for a moment doesn't change the temp inside the boxes.
Nic temp stays stable.
Me? I'd just eat that pizza. That would give you room for at least another liter.
Sorta. 1 cubic foot equals 7.48 gallons. The problem is that round bottles don't pack into such a space very efficiently. That's why I bought a 2.1 cubic foot freezer for my nic.
#1 (PET polyethylene terephthalate (soda and nic vendor bottles))
#2 (hdpe high density polyethylene (milk jugs and some squonk bottles))
#4 (LDPE low density polyethylene (vendor juice bottles and diy squeeze dropper bottles))
Silicon (gaining popularity for squonkers)
All acceptable. All will fare well in the freezer.
But so will #3 (PVC polyvinyl chloride) for example. BUT! In the right Polymer. For example some cling wrap is a PVC Polymer mixture.
Which goes to show that in certain mixtures it will remain flexible and not break in the freezer.
But it's toxic.
But!
As I said before... if buying vendor nic or juice in plastic bottles, it should be safe to just throw in the freezer.
It will flex if the ingredients contract in the cold.
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Each box holds a gallon. 1 of those liters is over the strength we can talk about.Me? I'd just eat that pizza. That would give you room for at least another liter.
That's 1,275,000 mg of nic in those 3 boxes
That's 44 years worth for me & Mrs me (in our 50's)
I make juice for a few more people so I'm having pizza tonight
I am not sure, but a dedicated small freezer would be better I assume because they are usually not frost free and over the years of warming and cooling cycles of regular frost free fridge freezer it may take a toll on the nic. Not sure but just my thoughts.
Not sure the frost free function would matter all that much, but every time you open and close your freezer the temperature does fluctuate. At least in a dedicated box, it would only be opened when necessary for the nic, not for the frozen Brussels sprouts. If I were to go to that much trouble, I would get the chest freezer type. That way when you lift the top, the cold air stay in better than a side opening door (cold air settles).
Frost free function is literally a stove top heating element between the cooling exchange unit and the inside wall of the freezer.
In a regular size fridge, a good frost free unit will have an aluminum stamped piece that clamps onto the heating element and dangles into the drain tube to keep that from freezing too.
If not, you can strip a piece of wire from 12-2 household wire, wrap it around the element 4 or 5 times and hang the end into the drain tube.
Works wonders.
Frost free will create vastly more fluctuating temps than merely opening and closing the door.
BUT!
Even a frost free freezer doesn't thaw out and refreeze groceries.
Opening the door from time to time is miniscule in effects in comparison.
So pandering over chest style or front opening is trivial, really.
Going deep Temps theorhetically will do more to prolong the life. Such as with a medical freezer like @Rossum did.
Having backup power if you have power outages in your area would also do well to help protect and prolong your investment.
And space in your other/food freezer in the event of an emergency or for periodic defrosting would be great to have.
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Got another mod and another set of batteries on the way along with another tank and a dripper so yeah I will never be done
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I would not bother with backup power or frost free units. It all does not matter in the long run.
Why we are putting nic into a freezers?
Because rate of chemical reactions depend on temperature. Rule of thumb (means it works for most cases): the rate of reaction doubles for every 10C rise in temperature. Room temperature is +20C. Freezer tmeperature is -20C. So, freezer slows down chemical reactions (such as oxidation) by 16 times. Suppose you have power outage for 3.65 days every year, suppose temperature in a freezer jumps to room temperature immediately. It means that average you are loosing 1/100 (or 1%) of your "freezer protection" due to power outages. If 1% is important for you, than definitely use power back up. If not, then not.
Temperature fluctuations are harmless for nicotine, in contrast to food.
Why we are putting nic into a freezers?
Because rate of chemical reactions depend on temperature. Rule of thumb (means it works for most cases): the rate of reaction doubles for every 10C rise in temperature. Room temperature is +20C. Freezer tmeperature is -20C. So, freezer slows down chemical reactions (such as oxidation) by 16 times. Suppose you have power outage for 3.65 days every year, suppose temperature in a freezer jumps to room temperature immediately. It means that average you are loosing 1/100 (or 1%) of your "freezer protection" due to power outages. If 1% is important for you, than definitely use power back up. If not, then not.
Temperature fluctuations are harmless for nicotine, in contrast to food.
My "medical" freezer isn't all that impressive in terms of being able to produce low temperatures. -10F seems to be about all she wrote. I think the only thing that makes it "medical" is an integrated "lock", which is actually just a 5-pointed Allen-key thing.
I'm OK with that. It was ~$200 delivered from Amazon.com and fits under my desk.
(pic is old, it's fuller than that now)
I've been keeping mine in a freezer for years now with no issues at all. Like others here, my nic is in 1 liter amber bottles, and I throw the other stuff in as it comes in. I have a Stanley FatMax toolbox for my immediate use stuff. Probably 3-6 months worth in the box, with a couple/few decades covered in the freezer.
I've been doing it this way for as long as I can remember. Everything comes out tasting great, and stays that way until I'm about done with it (knocking on wood).
So far so good, and fingers crossed for the future.
I've been doing it this way for as long as I can remember. Everything comes out tasting great, and stays that way until I'm about done with it (knocking on wood).
So far so good, and fingers crossed for the future.
Don't be. I'm just one of many. We had a plan and stuck to it. Thank you though [emoji4]
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Agreed.
Except a backup genny might cost some people less money than the amount of meat they have in a freezer.
And depending on where they live, that may be a major consideration.
That 1% (which could easily be well over 3%) would just be a bonus.
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