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sofarsogood

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Thanks. One of the lovely members here mentioned that before and i got a couple (on clearance sales -- those suckers can be expensive!). As i lack both the knowledge & the courage at this point, they're still unused in their boxes. Lack of knowledge can be fixed. Desperation may overcome a lack of courage one day.


They don't have to last forever; they just have to last as long as i do. :)
For vapocalypse survival on a limited budget though, would you get more separate battery mods or more built-in ones? Or "six of one, half a dozen of the other" regardless?
I estimate a regulated mod should last 2 years of continuous service but what if the screens can die on the shelf? So my VTC mini's and picos can take Arctic Foxfirmware which allows configuring from a computer screen. I have some tube mods with minimal protection via replacable boards. Finally a couple of mods with built in batteries. I'm confident those batteries can be replaced by an electronics repair shop if it's ever necessary. I'm avoiding mech mods for safety reasons.

The risk of ecig prohibition will be similar to the EVALI. It won't be possible to have confidence in the purity of nicotine or may be other ingredients unless those are legally available for reasonable prices. I've yet to find an authoritive answer about whether the nic suppliers can continue to sell after one of the various deadlines.
 

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From reddit:

- One person says that separate-battery mods are better than built-in battery mods because rechargeable batteries stop holding a charge sooner or later and it's cheaper to replace a battery than a mod. Plus, in the US, there won't be any mods to buy (legally) soon.

- Reply says that other parts of mods fail before the built-in batteries do. Firing buttons stop working, battery compartments break, leaked e-liquid kills the mod, etc. so built-in batteries will outlast the rest of the mod.

What do y'all think?

Thanks.

People talk about recharging cycles. The 18650's we use will lose capacity with each cycle. I forget the numbers, after a certain number of cycles they will reach the point where they should be replaced. Built in batteries are normally a different type of chemistry. I've never seen numbers on charging cycles for them. I know my ancient iStick has been through way more charges than any 18650 I ever had and it's still going strong.
 

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From reddit:

- One person says that separate-battery mods are better than built-in battery mods because rechargeable batteries stop holding a charge sooner or later and it's cheaper to replace a battery than a mod. Plus, in the US, there won't be any mods to buy (legally) soon.

- Reply says that other parts of mods fail before the built-in batteries do. Firing buttons stop working, battery compartments break, leaked e-liquid kills the mod, etc. so built-in batteries will outlast the rest of the mod.

What do y'all think?

Thanks.

I'm in the replaceable only camp. Nearly 8 years vaping. I've had one of those go south. None of several built-ins will hold a charge, but still work fine after charging, for one or two draws.

And yes, I do have a few mechs in the box :) Along with a mess of fuse modules and kicks. (Neither of which are suitable for high power vapers, but, hey, I tootle ;) )
 

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Both can be OK. Take Innoken's MPV internal battery mod? Those keep going forever. I won an MPV 5 and I am thrilled to have it. Solid as a rock I fully expect the battery to last a LONG time. Someone sent me one of the older ones, the ones that had a USB outlet built into them so you could charge your phone. It HAS to be super old but it vapes fine.

Anna
 

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Mechs do not frighten me. That said I made it my business to learn how to use them safely years ago when I bought my first REO. I also made it a point to have several in my collection and several rebuildable attys that are safe to put on them.

I was fortunate in the sense that when I started I skipped the serious wild west days of early modding but still came in early enough to learn the things I needed to be safe with very little effort hunting down the info.

My mechs are mostly put away at the moment. I will use up my regulated mods first as their longevity is more in question. That is choice but not fear.

It also pays to learn which mechs have what safety features. For example my REOs have a heat spring. If it gets too hot the spring collapses breaking the circuit. I like that. I also refuse to use mechs without legit full 510 cnnectors. The ones with just a hole (no bottom to the connector, the bottom pin of the atty touches the battery) I personally think are risky. It can be hard for me to tell if the bottom pin of an atty is long enough to use those safely. It is a personal choice. Although I know well there are people using this type with no issue, I just am not comfy with them.

Upshot of all this. If you are considering a mech do your homework. Learn what safety features to look for. Learn to build coils within the safety margins of your batteries.
 

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Mechs didn't frighten me either until I had a coil short out my device, luckily I had a VTC4 in it and when it got hot (instantly) I threw it and the button unstuck.

After that I starting leaning towards the regulated side of vaping.

What happen was the coil (0.6 ohm) somehow deformed and hit the deck, then the magnetic button on my Stingray stuck in a dead short situation. Let me tell you, it takes 1 second for the battery to get so hot it burned my hand through a brass mod.

I still use a mech occasionally but I'm wary.
 

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Mechs didn't frighten me either until I had a coil short out my device, luckily I had a VTC4 in it and when it got hot (instantly) I threw it and the button unstuck.

After that I starting leaning towards the regulated side of vaping.

What happen was the coil (0.6 ohm) somehow deformed and hit the deck, then the magnetic button on my Stingray stuck in a dead short situation. Let me tell you, it takes 1 second for the battery to get so hot it burned my hand through a brass mod.

I still use a mech occasionally but I'm wary.
I had an A7 atty short on My REO. Collapsed the spring instantly. I never noticed any heat. I was sitting there trying to figure out why the dang thing wouldn't fire. Not a clue in the world it had shorted. It wasnt until I opened the REO and saw the collapsed spring that it dawned on me what had happened. After that I absolutely trust the REO heat springs (and stocked up on extras before they went out of business).

Edit: I also tossed out the 2 A7 attys I had. The ones I had lacked insulation between the positive and negative in the 510 connector and although I tried the process I had found on the net for adding in that insulation I just never trusted the dang things again. I wouldn't even PIF something I thought was dangerous so they were round binned.
 

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    Laugh if you must, but is there a “best practices” for the occasion something goes wrong? I keep seeing where people had mods auto fire. And I worry what to do in a scary situation.
    toss it.
     

    sofarsogood

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    Thanks. One of the lovely members here mentioned that before and i got a couple (on clearance sales -- those suckers can be expensive!). As i lack both the knowledge & the courage at this point, they're still unused in their boxes. Lack of knowledge can be fixed. Desperation may overcome a lack of courage one day.


    They don't have to last forever; they just have to last as long as i do. :)
    For vapocalypse survival on a limited budget though, would you get more separate battery mods or more built-in ones? Or "six of one, half a dozen of the other" regardless?
    I estimate a regulated mod should last 2 years of continuous service but what if the screens can die on the shelf? So my VTC mini's and picos can take Arctic Foxfirmware which allows configuring from a computer screen. I have some tube mods with minimal protection via replacable boards. Finally a couple of mods with built in batteries. I'm confident those batteries can be replaced by an electronics repair shop if it's ever necessary. I'm avoiding mech mods for safety reasons.

    The risk of harsh ecig prohibition will be similar to the EVALI. It will be hard to have conidence in the purity of nicotine unless it is legally available.
     

    Myrany

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    The risk of harsh ecig prohibition will be similar to the EVALI. It will be hard to have conidence in the purity of nicotine unless it is legally available.

    I strongly suspect that in the US IF nic is available it will be taxed to a level that puts it out of reach for most. They are already making noises about doing exactly this.
     

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    UPDATE: 1.1 Cubic Mini-Freezer

    Here is a picture of the Freezer with the plastic shoe box removed and the 15 bottles re-organized . . . Bottom shelf holds 10 8oz Bottles the other 5 8oz bottles on the top shelf . . . Leaving enough room for approximately an additional 15 8oz bottles with the door closed tight . . . Just Sayin' . . . :rolleyes:


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    f1vefour

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    So my VTC mini's and picos can take Arctic Foxfirmware which allows configuring from a computer screen.

    I purchased a VTC Mini about 6 months ago that I thought was DOA but I flashed Arctic Fox and could see the screen on my PC, I used it for a day but ended up returning it. You could totally get by without the screen this way though.
     

    Blitzdonlife

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    Laugh if you must, but is there a “best practices” for the occasion something goes wrong? I keep seeing where people had mods auto fire. And I worry what to do in a scary situation.
    I agree with Fran, toss it. If you catch it quick enough and it has a battery door that's got a tab on it, eject the batteries first. Over 10 years I've only had this happen twice, both were regulated mods. Guess the circuit board fails, just a guess though.
     

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    I agree with Fran, toss it. If you catch it quick enough and it has a battery door that's got a tab on it, eject the batteries first. Over 10 years I've only had this happen twice, both were regulated mods. Guess the circuit board fails, just a guess though.
    Knock on wood, I haven’t had that happen.
     

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