All my nic from heartland arrived NOT 100% clear and my stash has different lot #s and dates about 1 month apart.
I'm not worried about nic not being 100% clear, personally. I think the fear of slightly oxidized nic is unfounded.
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My bad, I edited my post above. I did not realize the current price I'm seeing at River is a sale price. Still, it's the same price at heartland's regular price and you still do save a lot of freezer space.
For any vendor there's been an increased likelihood of oxidation in transit this summer, which could be a factor for folks that stocked up over the last few months.
I think a slight tinge of color in freebase isn't unusual, but a tan to brown tone would bother me with fresh nic I bought to store.
To their credit I've seen River Supply replace dark nic every time I've read of it happening. The bulk of it occurred around the end of last year.
I think a slight tinge of color in freebase isn't unusual, but a tan to brown tone would bother me with fresh nic I bought to store.
To their credit I've seen River Supply replace dark nic every time I've read of it happening. The bulk of it occurred around the end of last year.
That's another important point. I have to say that for me, Heartland's customer service isn't great. I have never had to get them to replace nic or ejuice, but I once got less plastic bottles than I ordered and once I got some broken glass bottles.
They never replied to my requests for refund or replacement on either order. I've been a long time customer of Heartland so that made me kinda mad. I was courteous both times. But I let it go and ate the small loss.
But I have no idea how they respond to claims of dark/oxidized nic. But with my experience with the bottles, it's gonna be a gamble at best with Heartland.
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Just recently two people on the random mixing thread got bad nic from River. Like you said though, they are replacing it.
Most all my nic stock I got from Wizard labs but I did get some last year from River and it was clear fortunately. I go thru so little at 3 mg I am sure mine will outlast me 
I'm a techie, and been doing DIY for a decade, but I don't buy over 100mg/ml. It's a personal choice, but 250 is not trivial, takes an extra bump in care.
At least you're thinning the herd!
I just remembered a few new Itaste VV kits that are tucked away. They were my wife's favorite for a couple years. They're probably 90+% of their original battery life but need to get in play soon or move out!
Well, maybe in a year or so.
At least you're thinning the herd!
I just remembered a few new Itaste VV kits that are tucked away. They were my wife's favorite for a couple years. They're probably 90+% of their original battery life but need to get in play soon or move out!
Well, maybe in a year or so.
I have a few innokin VV 4 batts I got from a local vape shop that was going out of business some 4-5 years ago. Paid $5 a piece. The best vv eGo batteries ever made IMHO. One actually crapped out a month after I got it and innokin replaced it.
I also bought 3 MVP 20W mods for $5 each that day. I bought a bunch of stuff to get those prices. The owner was sort of a jerk about it, but he had a lot of stuff to get rid of and he was always a jerk to me anyhow. lol. I'm not usually a wheeler and dealer, but I felt I was in a position to get paid for his always being a jerk to me in the past.
Incidentally that was the last time I ever stepped foot into a vape shop.
usually I only buy 100mg but since the 250 was on sale and not the 100....I got the 250 instead...but yeah gotta be careful when handling nic, even 100mg....gloves are a good idea
I'm OK with using higher mg nic, with adequate ventilation and protection. Freezer space and a great deal a while back led me to add a bit, so a little more learnin' and prep before decanting or diluting. Probably not for those of us who don't yet have experience handling nic at 100mg.usually I only buy 100mg but since the 250 was on sale and not the 100....I got the 250 instead...but yeah gotta be careful when handling nic, even 100mg....gloves are a good idea
You got some good deals. Those VV's last forever!I have a few innokin VV 4 batts I got from a local vape shop that was going out of business some 4-5 years ago. Paid $5 a piece. The best vv eGo batteries ever made IMHO. One actually crapped out a month after I got it and innokin replaced it.
I also bought 3 MVP 20W mods for $5 each that day. I bought a bunch of stuff to get those prices. The owner was sort of a jerk about it, but he had a lot of stuff to get rid of and he was always a jerk to me anyhow. lol. I'm not usually a wheeler and dealer, but I felt I was in a position to get paid for his always being a jerk to me in the past.
Incidentally that was the last time I ever stepped foot into a vape shop.
One internal batt I like is the disrupter, it has those dedicated batts. I put an Aegis silicone sleeve over it so it is not cold metal and the thing works great. I have a feeling it will work quite awhile.
I bust them out once in a while and can't really tell if the batteries are failing compared to when they were new.
usually I only buy 100mg but since the 250 was on sale and not the 100....I got the 250 instead...but yeah gotta be careful when handling nic, even 100mg....gloves are a good idea
I think it varies by the individual tolerance. If you don't know your own tolerance, sure it is best to side on caution. I remember the big warning about handling tobacco when rolling your own. If you don't wear gloves, wash your hands immediately because of nicotine absorption. I thought that was dumb. You mean if I bathe in tobacco and I never need to smoke again? How great would that be!
Well I am an excessive hand washer anyway and going 30 minutes without washing my hands is a long time. But even putting it off as long as I can, I don't think I ever absorbed more than a cigarette worth of nicotine when handling tobacco. People who have worked in the fields picking tobacco all day would know better than I. But those that have have told me if you have zero tolerance and picking tobacco all day without gloves you will be super sick. But people with a high tolerance, the nicotine is nothing much to worry about without gloves.
I've worked with 100mg PG nic without gloves before and I have got a few drops on my skin before. I never noticed anything nic absorption related, just slightly itchy skin if you don't wash it off right away. The itchy skin could be from the nic, or maybe the PG. YMMV. Would I get really sick if I got 1000mg on my skin? I dunno, maybe.
I think it varies by the individual tolerance. If you don't know your own tolerance, sure it is best to side on caution. I remember the big warning about handling tobacco when rolling your own. If you don't wear gloves, wash your hands immediately because of nicotine absorption. I thought that was dumb. You mean if I bathe in tobacco and I never need to smoke again? How great would that be!
Well I am an excessive hand washer anyway and going 30 minutes without washing my hands is a long time. But even putting it off as long as I can, I don't think I ever absorbed more than a cigarette worth of nicotine when handling tobacco. People who have worked in the fields picking tobacco all day would know better than I. But those that have have told me if you have zero tolerance and picking tobacco all day without gloves you will be super sick. But people with a high tolerance, the nicotine is nothing much to worry about without gloves.
I've worked with 100mg PG nic without gloves before and I have got a few drops on my skin before. I never noticed anything nic absorption related, just slightly itchy skin if you don't wash it off right away. The itchy skin could be from the nic, or maybe the PG. YMMV. Would I get really sick if I got 1000mg on my skin? I dunno, maybe.
I remember way back in the day there were lots of folks here freaking out about how you have to make sure you never get ejuice on your hands and in your mouth, acting as if it was gonna kill you.
I should have been dead over 300 times by now.
I also got 100mg on my skin when I was decanting my nic stash. Nothing happened.
I'm not saying one should not be cautious. But...
I was more worried about wasting nic than it killing me or getting nic poison.
Yeah, I received my replacement nic yesterday, which was unexpected. They got new nic to me within just a few days. I was impressed with their customer service.
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