Are you done stocking up?

[Bliss Doubt]

YAY!!! I am so glad for you! I was checking every few it was like a news story I couldn't turn away from we have the super cold temps here too.

We had rolling blackouts over the past week, sometimes as low as 9 degrees outside, freezing indoors. I decided I would never again spend 12 hours curled up with my knees under my chin, wearing a coat in bed underneath a blanket and a quilt. There was nothing fun you could do at all to get through that. Lookie what I bought on Ebay once I got my internet back. I asked the seller if it's in working order. She said she hasn't used it herself, but her grandpa used it all the time. That's just what I want, a used, loved antique kerosene heater. I have a vague memory of something like this in our storage room at home, growing up. My dad had it for his deer blind, but we never used it in the house. I've ordered kerosene and wick too. Ready next time!

 

[BillW50]

I've ordered kerosene and wick too. Ready next time!

If you need more information about using kerosene indoors, this is pretty good.

Best Portable Kerosene Heater for Indoor Use (Reviews+Safety Info)

 

[Bliss Doubt]

If you need more information about using kerosene indoors, this is pretty good.

Best Portable Kerosene Heater for Indoor Use (Reviews+Safety Info)

Thank you.

I read that article before deciding to buy the antique, but well, um, er, as long as this thread is about stocking up (prepping, hoarding), I guess I'll confess it: I bought the Keroheat too, the 23,800 BTU, but it's ugly, and it uses batteries for the starter, but you can cook on the top of it. I think you can cook on top of the antique one too, at least heat up soup, but in BTU it's only about 9k and will heat up about 400 sq. ft. of space. The Keroheat will take care of 900 sq. ft. The antique is the "mech mod" of heaters, nothing to burn out or become obsolete. Other kerosene research I did indicated that you set aside a small area to heat, a small room, and stay there during a cold snap with a power outage (with a window cracked to avoid carbon monoxide toxicity). During these power outages I pretty much did stay in my bedroom, where the quilts and blankets were, so the Keroheat is the back-up plan for the back-up plan, and I am BROKE for a while. No more goodies for me.

 

[borno]

I put a plug on the furnace a few years ago so I can run it on my portable generator if needed and it came in handy a couple times. It was supposed to be our coldest morning so far, but it is 24F right now. Some years back it hit 3 degrees (coldest I can remember) and they called for me to run the generators at work to help the power grid. They call for the generators sometimes when it is super hot in the summer too. Too cheap to upgrade the grid so they make us help out. I saw Texas asked to increase the power plant generation before the cold snap and the feds said no because of increased emissions. They told us about 6 years ago we could only run the newer generators at work to help the grid and not the 2 (500 KW each) older ones because of emissions. Stupid stuff.

 

[englishmick]

But I'll be honest with you, I'm afraid if I get a 5 cu ft freezer that I'll be tempted to fill it with more nic (not joking)

The answer to your dilemma is Ice Cream.

 

[Bliss Doubt]

I saw Texas asked to increase the power plant generation before the cold snap and the feds said no because of increased emissions. They told us about 6 years ago we could only run the newer generators at work to help the grid and not the 2 (500 KW each) older ones because of emissions. Stupid stuff.

Yep, it was a real clusterf**k.

The guy who designed most of our windtricity plants won an award for his stupidity. As best I can explain it, he used materials that don't function well in freezing temps, when he had the choice to use more traditional materials, and the plants were not weatherproofed. The rationale was that it never gets that cold in Texas anyway. This, of course, is patently ignorant. The upper panhandle routinely gets fierce winter weather. Dallas gets what they call "ice storms" almost every year, making the entire metroplex a vast ice skating rink. Even here in south Texas, where I live, we get something white falling out of the sky about every three years, whether sleet or snow, and about every 7-8 years we get a foot or more of snow.

So I don't know why we have our own power grid in Texas if we can't do what needs to be done. I'm really happy that we have such a high percentage of wind power in our package, and that so many coal fired power plants have been idled. When I was a kid, my aunt & uncle had a place at the coast, where my uncle built a windmill. They got mostly free energy from that, and sold some back into the grid. I believe in being gentle on the environment, but we do have these idle coal fired plants, with plenty of fuel on hand, and the US Department of Energy threatened arrest and imprisonment of officials if we fired them up, while people were freezing (there were some deaths), and FEMA type warming centers were opened, where they would pick you up and take you to catch bedbugs from crowds of strangers, no thanks.

We've had governors in the past who would have said FU, we're firing up the idle power plants, and if you send your regulators around we'll throw them in jail and sort it out in the spring, but Abbott is a creature of the establishment, not those who elected him. He won't fight for the people, now or ever.

 

[Aerodan]

I wonder if some good samaritan manufacturer(s) would be willing to post their RT RD*'s on some 3D CAD DIY sites...While it would be costly, metal 3D printing of parts is coming down in cost and it's not beyond imagination that one could print with Materialize or a similar service, the item they want. Just thinking out loud.

Heck one day soon printing all sorts of things at home may be a matter of bits and guts. Heck again, I hear now there's some 3D printing materials that one can maybe print at home and send out to be processed that yield a metal part. Ultra fuse 316 I think it's called.

A far cry from the grasp of most folks, but that gap sure is closing fast.

AD

 

[YoursTruli]

I know where you are coming from @Aerodan I admit to wishing some eliquid makers would share recipes. I can't imagine going without the one flavor I have vaped consistently since 2011. It scares me to think about it, but it will become a reality for me because the maker is in another state far away from me. I tried and occasionally vape other flavors (some I make myself) but none was an all day every day vape that made me not want to smoke.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

I wonder if some good samaritan manufacturer(s) would be willing to post their RT RD*'s on some 3D CAD DIY sites...While it would be costly, metal 3D printing of parts is coming down in cost and it's not beyond imagination that one could print with Materialize or a similar service, the item they want. Just thinking out loud.

Why would they do that when vaping is still a VERY large market in the global marketplace? They have nothing to gain (and a lot to lose) by letting you have access to their CAD files for products that they sell to put food on the table. These vape manufacturers aren't going out of business just because the US govt is killing the USA vape market.

Besides, no matter how much metal 3D printing is coming down in cost, it will never be as cheap as stocking up on a few of your favorite RTAs/RDAs while you still can, + a few important parts for them.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

I know where you are coming from @Aerodan I admit to wishing some eliquid makers would share recipes. I can't imagine going without the one flavor I have vaped consistently since 2011. It scares me to think about it, but it will become a reality for me because the maker is in another state far away from me. I tried and occasionally vape other flavors (some I make myself) but none was an all day every day vape that made me not want to smoke.

maybe a local vape shop can supply them to you on a special order? (assuming the manufacturer of the eliquid remains in business, of course)

 

[Aerodan]

I've been doing some 3D printing in nylon - it's not "easy", but it's not terribly hard either. The stuff is impervious to most harsh liquids and making a mod is in the near future as a fun project. I'll upload whatever the heck it is when done! DIY spirit!

Atomizers are very much another thing due to heat. Although I see a lot of Ultem, which can be 3D printed at some places online. Metal, too expensive still, but it feels like all of the bans on (insert thing here) will at some point be moot when every home is its own mini just-in-time manufacturer. I kinda dig that future.

That all said, I ultimately want to buy my stuff and vape rather than make it. AD

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

I've been doing some 3D printing in nylon - it's not "easy", but it's not terribly hard either. The stuff is impervious to most harsh liquids and making a mod is in the near future as a fun project. I'll upload whatever the heck it is when done! DIY spirit!

Atomizers are very much another thing due to heat. Although I see a lot of Ultem, which can be 3D printed at some places online. Metal, too expensive still, but it feels like all of the bans on (insert thing here) will at some point be moot when every home is its own mini just-in-time manufacturer. I kinda dig that future.

That all said, I ultimately want to buy my stuff and vape rather than make it. AD

Yeah, there's no shortage of box mod and other vape gear STL files online. I was gonna get a 3D printer a couple years ago be when I saw all this vape crap coming along, I decided against it and use my money on vape gear instead. But I'll get one someday. I'm glad I didn't get one because they can only get better...and cheaper.

 

[Bliss Doubt]

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[UncLeJunkLe]

Whoever has a business, any kind, a bakery, motorcycle repair shop, quilt shop, whatever, should apply to be a wholesaler with all the places where you order vape supplies and liquids.

These wholesalers will require you to provide proof of licenses that you are legally able to resell tobacco in your state and I have even heard there will also be a federal credential.

You may get away with this now, but you are playing with fire X10. The movement of "tobacco products" is no laughing matter to the US government and state governments. You are cutting in on their game. The US government is nothing more than a Mafia, organized crime syndicate.

You start buying "tobacco products" under the pretense that you are a "reseller", without being a bonafide tobacco reseller, and you WILL get nabbed eventually.

I guarantee you that at some point, when they figure out you are buying wholesale, but you have no licenses to resell, they will assume you are trafficking tobacco products and you run the risk of your home being raided and all your personal stash that you bought legally will be confiscated. You think you are going to get personal property back from the US Mafia that was erroneously confiscated? You got money for lawyers to even attempt that debacle which will take years with a 20% chance of success? Not a chance.

Besides, I thought you were all stocked up? What is the point in risking all this if you have what you need for the rest of your life?

Buying and selling tobacco in an illegal manner is riskier than dealing in marijuana these days.

 

[zoiDman]

These are things I'm starting to think about. ...

Seriously?

Sounds like a Great Way to get a knock on the door from the Guys with those High n' Tight haircuts.

BTW - You do know that Any Seller of Tobacco Products in the US has to provide Sales Records to an FDA/CTP investigator upon request. No Warrant or Court Order needed.

Right?

 

[BillW50]

Seriously?

Sounds like a Great Way to get a knock on the door from the Guys with those High n' Tight haircuts.

BTW - You do know that Any Seller of Tobacco Products in the US has to provide Sales Records to an FDA/CTP investigator upon request. No Warrant or Court Order needed.

Right?

This used to be the land of the free and the home of the brave.

 

[zoiDman]

This used to be the land of the free and the home of the brave.

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Not say'n that e-Cigarette Policies in the US are Not Completely Wacked. They Are.

But Using someone else's Tax ID Number and then having things shipped across a State Line is a Felony. And using a Wholesale License for Personal Consumption is a No-No also.

I'd just Hate to see someone less informed Read that Original Post and think it was a Good Idea. Because it Isn't.

I also Don't Like dragging Retailers into something like this by Calling them out by Name on a Public Forum. As if they Don't have Enough Problems to Deal With Already.

 

[BillW50]

That is what I am saying. Vaping policies are totally wacked and they know it. Putting harm reduction in the same camp as harm producing is just wrong! There is no need to interfere with adults trying to access harm reduction products. This is about saving lives!

 

[Bliss Doubt]

Gulp. Okay. But regarding the wholesalers, all I did was name the ones that offer wholesale accounts. That shouldn't get them in any trouble. And I have never sold any vaping supplies or products.

 

[Bliss Doubt]

These wholesalers will require you to provide proof of licenses that you are legally able to resell tobacco in your state and I have even heard there will also be a federal credential.

You may get away with this now, but you are playing with fire X10. The movement of "tobacco products" is no laughing matter to the US government and state governments. You are cutting in on their game. The US government is nothing more than a Mafia, organized crime syndicate.

You start buying "tobacco products" under the pretense that you are a "reseller", without being a bonafide tobacco reseller, and you WILL get nabbed eventually.

I guarantee you that at some point, when they figure out you are buying wholesale, but you have no licenses to resell, they will assume you are trafficking tobacco products and you run the risk of your home being raided and all your personal stash that you bought legally will be confiscated. You think you are going to get personal property back from the US Mafia that was erroneously confiscated? You got money for lawyers to even attempt that debacle which will take years with a 20% chance of success? Not a chance.

Besides, I thought you were all stocked up? What is the point in risking all this if you have what you need for the rest of your life?

Buying and selling tobacco in an illegal manner is riskier than dealing in marijuana these days.

I have all I need to survive a ban with DIY, but I prefer to continue to be able to buy pre-made eliquids.