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usps is taking comments right now in regards to the mail ban everyone need to blow that email up crash their servers tell them your story maybe you live in a rural area you dont have access to a vape shot tell they your disabled and you take care of your sick grandma that also vapes bring it all to them look up usps- vape mail comment period is open -Casaa go fill it our then it gives u the Opportunity to write the congress men in your area too please spread the word people

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Im glad i joined this group everyone has been a big help. Its messed up how their cracking down on this in such a timely manner this so quick in the blink if an eye. 1000s of business’s going out of l Business tons of local shops depend on shipping and the worst of it all is its all big tobacco companies behind it. Did you know The month of April Phillip Morris is coming out with the FDA approved I QOS smoke free cigarette in an interview they said this is the beginning of a smoke free future and that they’re doing this because they care about the health of the public people. This is the company that owns Marlboro they are responsible for millions of deaths in the past decades. Last year they were short on sales over $4 billion dollars because of the vape industry. This makes me ill I was a slave to them for over 20 years. Vaping i feel is saving my life. I vouch for as long as i live i will not give Philip morris another red cent for as long as i live we need to speak up people usps is taking comments right now in regards to the mail ban everyone need to blow that email up crash their servers tell them your story maybe you live in a rural area you dont have access to a vape shot tell they your disabled and you take care of your sick grandma that also vapes bring it all to them look up usps- vape mail comment period is open -Casaa go fill it our then it gives u the Opportunity to write the congress men in your area too please spread the word people they are tring to do it everywhere not just the usa big tobacco companies have more power then the people and thats not the way it’s supposed to be
You have part of the picture. There are several other sides to it. Perhaps one of the largest is big Pharma. Who makes the ineffective patches/gums/medications to stop smoking? Who makes the drugs for heart disease and cancer? Who's top people end up in charge of the FDA who regulated us? They have a vested interest in keeping us smoking or perpetually trying to quit via their less than adequate but extremely expensive methods. Every smoker that fails to quit they will get on the backside with drugs to handle the medical problems.

Then have a look at the tobacco settlement money. Which states came down hardest on vaping early on? Usually states that mortgaged their future tobacco settlement income and then panicked when people found a way to quit and suddenly they couldn't cover the payments.

The whole thing which I have been watching closely since 2013 has been a revolting education in exactly how our government actually works.

In short we threatened those with power and position and were crushed for the crime of trying to save our own lives.
 

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Check here if you're looking for a Nemesis clone: HCigar Nemesis (Clone) - LifeSmoke Vapors

I already ordered one! They got a dozen or so left.
I have one and if necessary CAN make it work. I just find it fiddly to the extreme so it is way down the order list of mods to use for me. LOL

That button coming apart at the worst possible time is the really annoying thing. But it is a mech and provided you don't lose parts it will be pretty hard to break so it has that advantage. I just happen to have several REOs which I find much less trouble to use day in and day out. YMMV
 

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I have one and if necessary CAN make it work. I just find it fiddly to the extreme so it is way down the order list of mods to use for me. YMMV

Pretty much how I feel about tanks of all kinds, I CAN make them work but I'd rather not :p

Sadly at this point in the game, it's all about longevity/endurance and I think having a spare mech or two in the stash (and the technical know-how to use them) is a valuable asset. But yah the Nemesis is a fiddly mech for sure. Just need to double-check that the contact pins aren't coming loose once or twice a day and you're good to go. I'm sure there's better mechs these days but that's the one I'm most familiar with, having used one habitually for ~3 years before high wattage VV/VW mods were a thing.
 

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Pretty much how I feel about tanks of all kinds, I CAN make them work but I'd rather not :p

Sadly at this point in the game, it's all about longevity/endurance and I think having a spare mech or two in the stash (and the technical know-how to use them) is a valuable asset. But yah the Nemesis is a fiddly mech for sure. Just need to double-check that the contact pins aren't coming loose once or twice a day and you're good to go. I'm sure there's better mechs these days but that's the one I'm most familiar with, having used one habitually for ~3 years before high wattage VV/VW mods were a thing.
If you want a less fiddly tube mech I have had good luck with my Panzer. Mine is an original but I am betting you can still find a clone fairly cheaply.

I do use tanks at time and have several stocked but if I have to be honest I am a squonker at heart. REO grabbed me early in my vaping life and I really didn't look back.
 

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THANKS!
I looked it up where you said - Batteries I could get elsewhere and they have the coils - But I did not see any pods? Don't the pods have to be changed?
Where do you get extra pods?
There weren't any pods on that site and those coils aren't necessarily the best for that particular device because I think they only had the one ohm but they will work I just personally don't think they're the best. I'm the pods are sold separately usually for about $5.99 on sale for two of them to give you a perspective I've been using my Vinci for probably about eight months and I have yet to need to change the pod Even the plug is holding up really well. But I do have a couple extras just in case it breaks or it deteriorates throughout time and I think it's a good idea to pick them up. maybe find a site that has the pods and some other coils so you have a little variety.
 
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I just read on Eightvape site that they are going to alternate shipping. Apparently new vape shipping companies are starting??? Anyone heard anything?
The only things I have heard were in a vaping360 article and as of now are pretty slim pickings. Servicing only a few major cities and that is assuming they get it up and running.
 

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    There are regional carriers that DHL can hand their packages off too, but they are more expensive than USPS and are limited in their delivery area. If you live where one of these carriers delivers fine, if not then you are out of luck.
     

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    I just read on Eightvape site that they are going to alternate shipping. Apparently new vape shipping companies are starting??? Anyone heard anything?
    There are some small courier services that can absolutely handle this however it's definitely not going to be country wide It's going to probably revolve mostly around big cities in states that have favorable laws. I know that my local e-juice manufacturer says that they have secured shipping for the entirety of Florida which is my state and also Texas so I'm going to assume that they have a warehouse there as well. And they're trying to get contacts elsewhere as well but are predicting it'll be very hit and miss. It's kind of weird that they're even doing all of that because they didn't bother to submit a PMTA so I don't know what good it's going to do
     

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    By delivering vape to a residence, these small, regional carriers/couriers will be subject to the things that UPS/FedEx/DHL decided were too risky. Why would the a small operation take on such a risky endeavor if the big 3 won't touch it with a 10-foot pole?
     

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    By delivering vape to a residence, these small, regional carriers/couriers will be subject to the things that UPS/FedEx/DHL decided were too risky. Why would the a small operation take on such a risky endeavor if the big 3 won't touch it with a 10-foot pole?

    One word...money. if that was their sole business model and they charged out the wazoo for it. I'm not talking about the regional carriers in existence now. I agree they wouldn't touch it, either. But some new startup with good financial backing could make a go at it in the cities. It would be expensive, though. The key weakness is the financial backing. I'm sure there are plenty of wealthy people who vape and dont want to be tied down to what the B&M stores offer.
     

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    I just read on Eightvape site that they are going to alternate shipping. Apparently new vape shipping companies are starting??? Anyone heard anything?

    The only things I have heard were in a vaping360 article and as of now are pretty slim pickings. Servicing only a few major cities and that is assuming they get it up and running.
    yeah I'd seen a few talking about them on fb
    but yeah it's hit and miss....I'm really hoping someone picks up the slack would be awesome.....screw you guys we've got our own vapemail now :lol:
    but then the price will probably suck since it's just small start up companies and they won't be able to compete with the big name prices
     

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    One word...money. if that was their sole business model and they charged out the wazoo for it.

    UPS/FedEx/DHL have capital and the legal power. If the risk far outweighs the benefit for them, I don't see a smaller outfit taking on that risk. That's my point.

    And if a new vape/specific courier comes into existence, it's an even bigger risk for them because when September comes they may find they no longer have a business, losing all that investment they made just 6 months prior. It takes a minimum of one year, but often 3 years, for a viable business with a solid business plan to break into the black and realize a profit.
     

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    I just read on Eightvape site that they are going to alternate shipping. Apparently new vape shipping companies are starting??? Anyone heard anything?
    NOTE: I know nothing abojut this company and have no commercial involvement with it. But since you asked.....

    SHIPPING ALTERNATIVES FOR THE VAPING AND E-CIGARETTE INDUSTRY
    SUMMARY
    Without USPS, FedEx, UPS, and DHL, vape and electronic-cigarette retailers and manufacturers still have a number of alternative shipping options, depending on the volume and destination of their products. For larger volumes, turn to uShip for instant rates and to book direct with 30+ national and regional less-than-truckload (LTL) carriers. For smaller quantities, like parcels or a few boxes, look into uShip’s open marketplace to access a nationwide network of independent transport companies. These drivers in sprinter vans and pickups with trailers typically move larger items (not necessarily parcels), so small-package delivery rates and times may not be as favorable compared to traditional providers, you can still get your products shipped nationwide or regionally.
    Vape Shipping: Alternatives For the Vaping and E-Cigarette Industry

    Now for the tricky part to satisfy government corruption {ie. draconian record keeping}
    An accountant type computer whiz will need to develop programs to simplify tracking and all necessary records - packages will be scanned in and tracked until signed for ujpon delivery as required.

    ================================

    For those of you who keep blaming 'big tobacco' for the current wave of corrupt politicians trying to curtail and/or kill the vape industry - I don't think so.......Big tobacco was starting to go big into vaping and would have been more than happy to have a new boom to tobacco sales that were tuning into the biggest boom to tobacco since the invention of the cigarette.
    It was the 'tobacco nazis' {modern day Prohibitionist who lost the war against alcohol and drugs and needed a new obsession to satisfy their sickness.
    And of course Big Pharma whose multi trillion dollar cancer industry that was being threatened by a basically non cancer causing form of tobacco.
    I exaggerate some, but have you noticed how the cancer drugs being advertised now on TV are almost as bad as cigarette advertising of 30 years ago?
    There is a video out there called "A Billion Lives" about how many lives could be saved per year if all cigarette smoker switched to vaping - A big loss to
    Big Pharma's cancer cure industry!!!
    And let' us not forget India that has a very high death rate from cigarette use and resultant death
    - So what do they do? They outlaw all vaping and vaping products- you now will be arrested and may do jail time in India for possession of any vaping devices!!! And this is when Mother India turned into a ...... - But not here in America where many have said:
    "We have the best politicians money can buy" !!!
     
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    SHIPPING ALTERNATIVES FOR THE VAPING AND E-CIGARETTE INDUSTRY
    SUMMARY
    Without USPS, FedEx, UPS, and DHL, vape and electronic-cigarette retailers and manufacturers still have a number of alternative shipping options, depending on the volume and destination of their products. For larger volumes, turn to uShip for instant rates and to book direct with 30+ national and regional less-than-truckload (LTL) carriers. For smaller quantities, like parcels or a few boxes, look into uShip’s open marketplace to access a nationwide network of independent transport companies. These drivers in sprinter vans and pickups with trailers typically move larger items (not necessarily parcels), so small-package delivery rates and times may not be as favorable compared to traditional providers, you can still get your products shipped nationwide or regionally.
    Vape Shipping: Alternatives For the Vaping and E-Cigarette Industry

    Now for the tricky part to satisfy government corruption {ie. draconian record keeping}
    An accountant type computer whiz will need to develop programs to simplify tracking and all necessary records - packages will be scanned in and tracked until signed for ujpon delivery as required.

    ================================

    For those of you who keep blaming 'big tobacco' for the current wave of corrupt politicians trying to curtail and/or kill the vape industry - I don't think so.......Big tobacco was starting to go big into vaping and would have been more than happy to have a new boom to tobacco sales that were tuning into the biggest boom to tobacco since the invention of the cigarette.
    It was the 'tobacco nazis' {modern day Prohibitionist who lost the war against alcohol and drugs and needed a new obsession to satisfy their sickness.
    And of course Big Pharma whose multi trillion dollar cancer industry that was being threatened by a basically non cancer causing form of tobacco.
    I exaggerate some, but have you noticed how the cancer drugs being advertised now on TV are almost as bad as cigarette advertising of 30 years ago?
    There is a video out there called "A Billion Lives" about how many lives could be saved per year if all cigarette smoker switched to vaping - A big loss to
    Big Pharma's cancer cure industry!!!
    And let' us not forget India that has a very high death rate from cigarette use and resultant death
    - So what do they do? They outlaw all vaping and vaping products- you now will be arrested and may do jail time in India for possession of any vaping devices!!! And this is when Mother India turned into a ...... - But not here in America where many have said:
    "We have the best politicians money can buy" !!!
    To continue..........

    A KERNEL OF HOPE:

    "However, there now appears to be a kernel of hope for vapers—at least for a fairly large number of vapers. A partnership between a private group buying company and a national residential shipping carrier known simply as X has begun building a vaping product delivery network that will serve residential customers in some areas, with more to follow. There are currently more questions than answers about which areas will be covered and which vape companies will be able to participate, but the folks at X seem dedicated to making it happen.

    Shipping costs will be slightly higher, but not far from the cost of USPS delivery with adult signature collection. However, the considerable costs retailers will incur because of PACT Act and tax compliance, and rejigging all of their shipping processes, will probably be reflected in the prices we pay for products and shipping.

    The goal is to cover as many customers as possible right away, then to continue growing the coverage area after launch........"

    "The X delivery coverage area has not been made public yet, but according to one seller who intends to ship through X, it is likely to cover parts of more than a dozen states as of April 1. The coverage area at launch is expected to include at least sections of Florida, Texas, California, Nevada and Arizona. A spokesman for X declined to confirm specifics about delivery areas, but told Vaping360 that it would soon provide a list arranged by ZIP code (the coverage isn’t defined by state borders).

    The process of deciding which areas to include is complicated, according to a retail vendor who didn’t want to be named. First, X and its partners analyzed the customer lists of potential retail clients, then began looking at laws and regulations in the most commonly shipped-to locations. The company then sought shipping partners willing to deliver vaping products.

    Drivers will have to be trained on the federal requirements, and shippers will have to track custody of each package for PACT Act reporting. The goal is to cover as many customers as possible right away, then to continue growing the coverage area after launch......"

    Vape Shipping and the PACT Act: What We Know So Far - Vaping360
     

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    I highly doubt a new shipping startup will serve many areas if it comes into being, not enough volume to justify the cost. And then there's the high delivery charges they will need to just break even. I guess I see it as a pipe dream and wouldn't count on it at all.

    Who would invest anything in a new product delivery business when most of those products won't survive the FDA approval process? It's a red herring IMHO.
     

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