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    Liability, and they are aiding in the demonization of vaping IMHO. These batteries were never intended to be used or even handled by consumers. They are made to be used by factories that make power packs (like power tool power packs, laptop power packs, etc) and other such products that have built in protection circuits.
    Yeah - it would seem that all manufacturers with the exception of Molicel, have that as a disclaimer somewhere on their sale page.
     
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    Wow, talk about beating a dead mech to death. I don't know of any mech that you can sub ohm on but not being a sub ohmer, I am not up to speed on the topic.

    When I first started, mechs were about all there was and we did alright. I don't assume someone is ignorant and needs to be told by 5 people that they are dangerous. All mods are dangerous if you don't know what you are doing.

    In the words of one of my former clients (Eng was 2nd language), "barking up a dead horse" :) and I will leave it at that.
     

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    The smokestack that seats on top/over the coils is almost touching them - I'm pretty sure they're Coilology tri-core fused claptons. They don't seem that big. Again, another reason to start learning to wrap my own coils.

    Well it's not a very big deck so yeah, if you can push the coil legs into their mounting holes a little more and still have the coil sitting mostly over the air intake holes, that's all I can think of. I don't use claptons or any specialty coils like that - some are big, some are small, that's all I know lol But I can't make my own clapton wires so I won't use clapton coils. To me they are like factory coils, I would have to stock up on them. No way, I'll stick to regular old round wire.
     

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    "barking up a dead horse"
    Thats just about the best summation of nearly every internet disagreement I've ever seen. Your friend is a genius even if he doesn't realize it...:thumb:
     

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    Remember way back, I was a kid, a pack of cigs cost $.35? They are $9 in my area last I checked, maybe more. I remember saying I refuse to pay $9 for a pack of cigs, so it was hello vaping :) But those early cig a like were $100 for a kit, the atomizer and cart, 3 piece style, no battery life. So really prices are way cheaper than then.
    Mid 2010 I started with one of the RN4xxx series jobs. Ahhh for the good old days of fun like blue foam mods [emoji16]

    NY nanny state tax increase is what got me to vaping. Multi dollar a pack plus-up at one shot. I could afford it, but darned if I was going to pay it.
     

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    Does anyone else get that creepy feeling when people anxious to stock are buying potentially dangerous things they have no real clue about? I haven't felt like this since the mech craze days, years ago, when everyone and their brother were pushing and selling them to everyone. I get it too when I see you better get nic the higher mg the better said to those with no knowledge of what they are buying. I mean I get now is the time but I keep feeling I'll be seeing unpleasantness all over the news in the not too distant future.
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    Just to be clear my original post above was never directed at any individual, rather voicing my concern at what I have been seeing in general on the forum as of late, but, assumptions were made and expressed and off we go. I'm sorry I said anything I should know better because it rarely is taken at face value and if anyone felt singled out that was never my intent.
     

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    Some have some safety features but not regulated. I have one like that, Luna I think??
    Yes, Asmodus Luna is a good example. My ehpro Armor Prime you'vemods are similar (I love them for the side fire button).

    The semi will classically protect against low ohms/short, low battery, etc., quite decent basic safety, may well have rudimentary voltage indication (ehpro AP led will change to yellow, then to red just before cut-out).

    My Armageddon stash are my multiple true mech squonks, very maintainable (I have a decent number of spare good 510 connectors, many spare silicone squonk buttoned, making replacement solid copper contacts is trivial). They work just fine with tanks, too, and my preferred ohms/power level in tanks happens to be right to use those tanks on mechs.
     

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    My first mod I think was a mech now that I think about it, a GLV super mini, it has some wires to the fire button but not regulated. Took proctected batts, we only used cartos back then, 2 ohms or 3 ohm Cartos. I never gave it a thought that is was unregulated because I don't think much was back then. I still have them but not sure about finding batts.
     

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    Well I am really old cause cigs were a quarter in vending machines and 1.00 a carton for name brands on post.

    They were always cheaper on post. Even when I was in the army they were only $8-9 a carton on post.
     

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    Wow, talk about beating a dead mech to death. I don't know of any mech that you can sub ohm on but not being a sub ohmer, I am not up to speed on the topic.

    When I first started, mechs were about all there was and we did alright. I don't assume someone is ignorant and needs to be told by 5 people that they are dangerous. All mods are dangerous if you don't know what you are doing.

    In the words of one of my former clients (Eng was 2nd language), "barking up a dead horse" :) and I will leave it at that.
    I regularly sub ohm on a mech. 0.7 ohm coil even at full charge of 4.2 volts is only 6 Amps. Given I run 20 Amp or higher max continuous discharge batteries I have plenty of room for safety. But this is very much what I meant by needing to know what you are doing. I would NEVER run a super low coil like a .15 which would pull 28 amps. I really am not aware of a battery that reliably has a max continuous discharge that high. My personal comfort zone is to never require more than half a batterys max continuous discharge. That leaves some wiggle room if things go slightly awry.
     

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    Oh sorry, I need to be more aware of my abbreviations - VV in this case being the brand Vandy Vape.
    Interestingly, the original pulse is not a classic mech due to the button implementation.

    I keep an OG pulse and battery in my car along with a prepped squonk rda and eliquid, as backup (I rotate the battery and eliquid every couple months).

    The pulse is cool in terms of size, though its internal resistance is a bit on the high side even after tightening the knife switch on/off cutout inside it. My true mechs, with solid copper or silver contacts and modmaker connectors, have very low resistance (meaning less voltage drop).
     

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    So on a mech is it safe to say, stay around 1 ohm +, no lower than .8 or .7?
    I normally run about 0.35 - 0.4 ohms with zero worries.

    Current = Voltage/resistance. With a fresh battery at a full 4.2V (they tend to drop to around 3.7 fairly soon), that's 12 amps - pretty trivial for modern batteries.

    At 0.7 ohms you would only draw 6A at 4.2 V - if you use any recommended-for-vaping battery it should exceed that.
     
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    So on a mech is it safe to say, stay around 1 ohm +, no lower than .8 or .7?

    0.7 at 4.2v is only 6 amps. Lots of room for lower resistance on a high amp battery.

    For a single 18650, Mooch estimates the Samsung 20S at 30A CDR. You could build at 0.35 ohms and still be well below CDR at 12A. That's a little over 50W.

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