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Discussion in 'Liquid Extraction From Tobacco' started by Str8vision, Oct 11, 2014.

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  1. Boxster

    Boxster Super Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 4, 2012
    Buda, Tx
    Damn! Some of my favorites gone forever.:cry:

    Mike and Mary McNiel, owners of McClelland, wrote the below letter to friends and customers on February 28th, 2018:

    The McClelland Tobacco Company is closing after 40 years. We want to thank all the retailers and pipe smokers for their support and efforts to spread their appreciation of our pipe tobaccos, taking us from a very modest beginning in Grandpa McClelland’s basement in the Fall of 1977 to a company with a worldwide reputation for quality.

    We have made our pipe tobaccos – Virginias, Oriental Mixtures, Aromatics, etc. – from the highest grades of leaf and strip tobaccos because of their basic richness and natural sweetness. That has been the beauty of McClelland and that is now the problem. We can no longer access tobacco of the quality we need. The time-honored, labor intensive processes at the farm are disappearing. The aging of leaf over several summers to mellow in “sweats” is largely a thing of the past. We need “old school” methods at every stage before manufacturing to make it possible for McClelland to draw from the leaf the flavors that have been our hallmark. Without the supportive infrastructure our government used to provide, a small company such as ours cannot continue. We might have limped along with lesser leaf but nobody would have been happy with the resulting products and we would have been ashamed of them.

    We have sold down all the inventory that we have been able to produce with the finest leaf. We want to thank you, our customers, and thank our great employees/friends who have been so capable and conscientious and thank our leaf suppliers who have made extraordinary effort to search out the finest leaf possible for us for 40 years. We will miss McClelland and our daily contacts with our friends in the pipe community. We feel privileged to have been part of this wonderful world of the pipe for so long. The finest people we know have been and are pipe and tobacco people, and we hope to keep up our contacts as we move on to the next phase of life.

    We wish everybody good luck and good fortune.

    Mike and Mary McNiel
     
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  2. Str8vision

    Str8vision Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 26, 2013
    Sallisaw, Oklahoma USA
    First was Dunhill, now McClelland, I wonder who'll be next.... The email from P&C today;

    The sad news has been announced about the future of McClelland and the masses are stocking up before everything is gone. We wanted to give our P&C Faithful an opportunity to stock up on your favorite bulk items before our inventory is depleted. We have McClelland bulks like Vanilla Black Cavendish, Cyprian Mixture, Light Cherry Cordial and much more to choose from that we know you will want to get your hands on. So come and stockpile what you can before time runs out on McClelland!
     
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  3. 67Tele

    67Tele Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 23, 2014
    Austin
    Yeah, I got that email also. Very sad, not only for me since I've come to depend on Mc's Perique and Latakia but mostly for those who've enjoyed their tobaccos for 40 something years. I checked a few sites last night and Mc's blending tobaccos seem to be gone.

    I have a big tin of Save Big on Dominican Glory Maduro - Pipes and Cigars that I"ll need to ration.
     
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  4. Boxster

    Boxster Super Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 4, 2012
    Buda, Tx
    I was just trying out an extraction of McClelland Frog Morton On the Bayou. Good stuff!
    Was looking forward to trying more of the Frog Morton line.
     
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  5. checkum

    checkum Super Member ECF Veteran

    May 8, 2014
    Missouri, USA
    What a revolt'n development, as Riley would say on the life of Riley. {I date myself}
     
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  6. Str8vision

    Str8vision Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 26, 2013
    Sallisaw, Oklahoma USA
    I'm still enjoying NET made from Tsuge's "Ryujin". Not for the faint of heart, it's definitely an acquired taste. The sweet Virginias, spicy fire-cured Arcadian Black and smokey Latakia yield a bold NET. Five years ago I wouldn't have given this NET the time of day, would have complained that it's too smokey, spicy and stout but here I am, cherishing every puff. :)
     
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  7. 67Tele

    67Tele Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 23, 2014
    Austin
    Yeah, and I also like Tsuge "Gods" Fujin - Pipes and Cigars The oriental spice made it preferable to me. It seems though that the bright spiciness is best when fresh. It's darkened up as it ages. Both are very good and yes, stout.
     
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  8. checkum

    checkum Super Member ECF Veteran

    May 8, 2014
    Missouri, USA
    Sounds great to me! :pervy:
     
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  9. 67Tele

    67Tele Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 23, 2014
    Austin
    4 Noggins

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  10. Str8vision

    Str8vision Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 26, 2013
    Sallisaw, Oklahoma USA
    It's odd and bit surprising but I haven't extracted many blends from the Mac Baren line of tobaccos. I didn't intentionally avoid the brand, it just worked out that way. I might need to remedy that while the sale is running, assuming of course P&C actually has them in stock, a rather big -IF- with P&C the last few years.
     
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  11. 67Tele

    67Tele Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 23, 2014
    Austin
    Ah, the whole image didn't capture. This is at 4 Noggins, not P&C.
     
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  12. Str8vision

    Str8vision Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 26, 2013
    Sallisaw, Oklahoma USA
    I received an email from P&C today announcing something or another about Mac Baren pipe tobaccos, just assumed it was the same sale. After looking a little closer, P&C is only offering sale prices on Mac Baren's Halberg series of pipe tobacco. Evidently that line is being discontinued by Mac Baren.
     
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  13. 67Tele

    67Tele Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jun 23, 2014
    Austin
    I ordered the Pure Virginia from 4 Noggins and then some blenders from Smoking Pipes.

    Your Order Details
    [​IMG] Cornell & Diehl
    White Burley
    Sku: 005-459-0019 Quantity: 1
    Options: 1oz
    Price: $2.18
    [​IMG] Cornell & Diehl
    Red Virginia Cavendish
    Sku: 005-459-0023 Quantity: 1
    Options: 2oz
    Price: $6.06
    [​IMG] Cornell & Diehl
    Long Cut Perique
    Sku: 005-459-0077 Quantity: 1
    Options: 2oz
    Price: $7.54
    [​IMG] Cornell & Diehl
    Dark Burley
    Sku: 005-459-0018 Quantity: 1
    Options: 2oz
    Price: $4.11
    [​IMG] Cornell & Diehl
    Cube Cut Burley
    Sku: 005-459-0021 Quantity: 1
    Options: 1oz
    Price: $4.00
    [​IMG] Sutliff
    507C Virginia Slices
    Sku: 005-443-0046 Quantity: 1
    Options: 1oz
    Price: $2.74
    [​IMG] Peter Stokkebye
    Black Cavendish
    Sku: 005-005-0032 Quantity: 1
    Options: 1oz
    Price: $2.43
    [​IMG] Mac Baren
    Virginia No. 1
    Sku: 005-004-0005 Quantity: 1
    Options: 2oz
    Price: $5.69
    [​IMG] Gawith Hoggarth & Co.
    Brown Cavendish
    Sku: 005-001-0070 Quantity: 1
    Options: 2oz
    Price: $7.78
     
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  14. checkum

    checkum Super Member ECF Veteran

    May 8, 2014
    Missouri, USA
     
  15. checkum

    checkum Super Member ECF Veteran

    May 8, 2014
    Missouri, USA
    I have been enjoying this extraction for a long time and as recently as all day, off and on, yesterday:




    [​IMG]
    Profile:
    Tobacco: Latakia, Perique, Turkish, Virginia
    Style: English
    Room Note: 4 - Distinct
    Cut: Ribbon
    Packaging: Tin
    Country of Origin: United States
    Flavor Intensity: 4 - Distinct
    Brand: Cornell & Diehl
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    Cornell & Diehl Joie de Vivre
     
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  16. Str8vision

    Str8vision Ultra Member ECF Veteran

    Dec 26, 2013
    Sallisaw, Oklahoma USA
    Definitely fits my flavor profile :) Joie de Vivre is a C&D blend I haven't extracted, I don't even recall seeing this one before. One of their new "cellar series", which are tinned tobacco blends that will reach their peak flavor after 10-15 years in storage. With the FDA's impending nonsense I have to wonder if C&D is hinting at something here... ;) One thing it does tell me; tinned tobacco has a l-o-n-g shelf life.
     
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  17. Boxster

    Boxster Super Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 4, 2012
    Buda, Tx
    Same tobacco profile as Frog Morton "On the Bayou"
    I will have to give this a try.
     
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  18. checkum

    checkum Super Member ECF Veteran

    May 8, 2014
    Missouri, USA
    Boxster, go for a long extraction time and you should enjoy this one!
    It tastes as good as it smells!!! :pervy:
     
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  19. checkum

    checkum Super Member ECF Veteran

    May 8, 2014
    Missouri, USA
    Try it you'll like it, LOL. I could NEVER wait 10 to 15 years to try this. Especially after getting a whiff of the opened tin....
     
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  20. PapawBrett

    PapawBrett Travelin' Man Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 16, 2012
    Monroe NC
    Molto Dolce, extracted a year ago, mixed 10% eight weeks ago, TC at 360F.

    Life is Good !
     
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