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tried these with the rubber tip that comes with them, still getting juice hits.also using just the rubber donut, that eliminates dry hits but is making things worse because juice puddles on the top. none of these problems existed with the older ones. :(

The supplied rubber tip is a waste of our planet's resources. All it seems to do is gather juice then dump it in your mouth every fourth hit or so. Use a drip tip, short cannon in delrin is my favourite. I don't know how that stops mouthful of juice syndrome but it does.
 

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The supplied rubber tip is a waste of our planet's resources. All it seems to do is gather juice then dump it in your mouth every fourth hit or so. Use a drip tip, short cannon in delrin is my favourite. I don't know how that stops mouthful of juice syndrome but it does.

just to be clear, you are talking about the one rubber tip included and not the rubber tip at the top of each one of them?
 

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tried these with the rubber tip that comes with them, still getting juice hits.also using just the rubber donut, that eliminates dry hits but is making things worse because juice puddles on the top. none of these problems existed with the older ones. :(

Seems like a person could put the seals/mouth piece from Old CE2 into a New CE2 and if the problem went away, they would know that it was the New seals/mouthpiece that caused it and not something else.

The supplied rubber tip is a waste of our planet's resources. All it seems to do is gather juice then dump it in your mouth every fourth hit or so. Use a drip tip, short cannon in delrin is my favourite. I don't know how that stops mouthful of juice syndrome but it does.

Not sure why a Drip tip would stop a person getting e-Liquid in their mouth either? But as I see it, there are only Three reason why e-Liquid should get past the mouth piece.

One is that the Seals are leaking causing e-Liquid seep past the cup.

Two is that the seals are doing their job and the e-Liquid comes from e-Liquid vapor that is condensing.

Three is a combination of One and Two.

Bad mentioned some a couple of hundred posts back. Just a casual remark about a CE2 that worked well on one PV but tasted burnt on another PV.

Does the volume of air flow per unit time play a role in not only the taste of the hit you get Also whether or not e-Liquid gets in a users mouth? Or are the seals the only determining factor?
 

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it doesn't seem to be the seals that are the issue here, I changed the seal from the old one to the new one, still got juice hits. with just the rubber donut, the juice builds up on top of the rubber donut in the space that is left between the donut and the mouthpiece.

OK...

So if it's not the seal than what is it?

Could it be that the New CE2's vaporize e-Liquids faster than the old one? ( People have mentioned that the New CE2's are "Juice Hogs". ) Is the e-Liquid in your mouth then from vapor that is condensing because the vapor has more e-Liquid in it?

I'm not a mechanic but I know that when a carburetor on a motor is running too rich, that there are Two ways to fix it.

One is too Reduce the amount of fuel. This might be bad for a CE2 because poor wicking causes Burnt tastes.

The other way is to Increase the Air Flow. Is this what the Drip Tip might be doing. Increasing the Air to e-Liquid ratio so less condensation occurs?
 
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this could make sense that is is condensation, only way I can really see the liquid getting above the donut. but I use 2.4-2.6 ohm on true 3.7 devices, so wouldn't that lessen the affect?

OK...

So if it's not the seal than what is it?

Could it be that the New CE2's vaporize e-Liquids faster than the old one? ( People have mentioned that the New CE2's are "Juice Hogs". ) Is the e-Liquid in your mouth then from vapor that is condensing because the vapor has more e-Liquid in it?

I'm not a mechanic but I know that when a carburetor on a motor is running too rich, that there are Two ways to fix it.

One is too Reduce the amount of fuel. This might be bad for a CE2 because poor wicking causes Burnt tastes.

The other way is to Increase the Air Flow. Is this what the Drip Tip might be doing. Increasing the Air to e-Liquid ratio so less condensation occurs?
 

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I really think the problem with the newer style seals is the inner lip that runs inside the cup. The original CE2 seals didn't have this, but for some unknown reason when they started putting notches in the later ones they added this inner lip that also chokes the wick. Typical MiT, one step forward two steps back.
 

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this could make sense that is is condensation, only way I can really see the liquid getting above the donut. but I use 2.4-2.6 ohm on true 3.7 devices, so wouldn't that lessen the affect?

A CE2 is a actually a VERY complex piece of Engineering.

Factors such as Volts & Ohms play a role, perhaps the Greatest role, in how a CE2 works or doesn’t work but there are others.

Cup slot width. Wick size. Coil winding tightness. Air Flow. These all have a Dynamic effect.

If a person didn’t have a Drip Tip to use on a CE2, and if the Drip Tip is actually solves the problem by increasing air flow, is there another way a CE2 can be made to draw more air?

What would happen if a person took a 1/16” drill and opened up on of the small side holes on a CE2 on the battery connector?

BTW – What is the role of the Two Small Holes anyway?
 

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i've opened the holes, destroyed one that way though so I'm hesitant to do it again, there was something that I managed to hit as it never fired again after doing that.

A CE2 is a actually a VERY complex piece of Engineering.

Factors such as Volts & Ohms play a role, perhaps the Greatest role, in how a CE2 works or doesn’t work but there are others.

Cup slot width. Wick size. Coil winding tightness. Air Flow. These all have a Dynamic effect.

If a person didn’t have a Drip Tip to use on a CE2, and if the Drip Tip is actually solves the problem by increasing air flow, is there another way a CE2 can be made to draw more air?

What would happen if a person took a 1/16” drill and opened up on of the small side holes on a CE2 on the battery connector?

BTW – What is the role of the Two Small Holes anyway?
 

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I really think the problem with the newer style seals is the inner lip that runs inside the cup. The original CE2 seals didn't have this, but for some unknown reason when they started putting notches in the later ones they added this inner lip that also chokes the wick. Typical MiT, one step forward two steps back.

But if it chokes the wick isn't it making a better seal? So leaking would be reduced. Wicking would also be reduced which we know causes a Burnt Taste. But at least leaking wouldn't be the cause.

If that inner ring is the on the cup seal is the problem could it be tested by using an old cup seal?
 

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i've opened the holes, destroyed one that way though so I'm hesitant to do it again, there was something that I managed to hit as it never fired again after doing that.

You can't make an Omelet without breaking a few eggs.

The key to drilling a CE2, or an Atty for that matter, is to only break thru the hole.

But once again, What is the role of the Two side Holes anyway?
 

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Not sure why a Drip tip would stop a person getting e-Liquid in their mouth either? But as I see it, there are only Three reason why e-Liquid should get past the mouth piece.

Tips with small holes through which vapor escapes allow liquid to pool around the underside of the hole, eventually collecting into a drop that clogs the hole and spits juice in your mouth on your next inhale. This is worse with thicker juices as the drops have greater surface tension. The hole in a drip tip is too wide for this to happen. Instead, vapor condenses under the lip of the drip tip and around the barrel of the hole. Any that condense into a droplet just slide back down.
 

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Tips with small holes through which vapor escapes allow liquid to pool around the underside of the hole, eventually collecting into a drop that clogs the hole and spits juice in your mouth on your next inhale. This is worse with thicker juices as the drops have greater surface tension. The hole in a drip tip is too wide for this to happen. Instead, vapor condenses under the lip of the drip tip and around the barrel of the hole. Any that condense into a droplet just slide back down.

Sounds reasonable...

Can you think of anyway to fix this problem if a person doesn't have or doesn't want to use a Drip Tip?
 
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