Competition vaping... Really?

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bluecat

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I have quite a bit of fun getting silly and blowing huge clouds every once in awhile, sometimes in public. I'm getting too old to give a crap about what anyone else thinks and I don't think the FDA really cares about the volume we exhale.
Let some nonsense into your life. It keeps you centered. If nothing else, minding your own business always helps.

When your business, a big cloud, goes in my face or obstructs my view. It starts to be my business. It goes both ways mate.
 

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Don't know how it is in the US but in the UK most cloud chasers are not former smokers but people getting into "clouding" as the new thing and is playing into the hands of those who claim over here that ecigs are encouraging people to take up something they wouldn't of otherwise. Personally if vaping had been legislated and we all knew where we stood I couldn't care less what people do but vaping isn't certain for a lot of people so some care is needed. After all did any of us have "who can blow the biggest smoke" competitions when we smoked.

True it could encourage some otherwise non-interested persons into the vapin realm, but the only guy i know that is nothing but a "cloud chaser" that wasn't a smoker prior to electronic devices use 0mg liquids, matter of fact not sure he uses anything more than VG. He is however one of those people who will spend considerable amounts of money on his hobby. That can only help our future.
 

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I will throw this out there. I think cloud competitions are kind of silly, but if that is how you enjoy vaping, then more power to you.

That said, the sponsors of the events should be verifying all set-ups to make sure they are safe. Once they have verified the rig safe, it should be set aside until the owner is up to "compete". Having a resistance minimum limit would be a good idea also. If nothing else, it brings the issue of how important safety is to the surface, so Joe Blow watching the competition might stop and think, "Hmmmm, is my rig safe?" Most of us saw what happen at VapeBlast, it is just a matter of time before it happens again.
 

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I don't really view cloud competitions as anything more than social events catering specifically to the sub(client)culture. Bookstores hold signings and readings. Wineries hold wine tasting events. Comic/trading card shops hold 'Magic The Gathering' (or whatever is hip at this moment) tournaments.

Everyone needs a social outlet. Cloud comps aren't exactly classy, but they can't be any worse than, say, car audio competitions (you know, to see whose system can shatter the most neighboring windows) at the local car stereo shop. These events are actually good...keep the hobby strong and community surrounding it tight knit.

Regardless, the government's gonna gov, for better or worse...nothing good will come from trying to tiptoe around that certainty.
 
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To the person who started this thread...LOL nice avatar picture. And I totally agree.

Most of the people you see vaping in these cloud competitions, super low sub ohm setups looks like kids who never spent many years of smoking real cigarettes. I guess it's the new trendy,cool or how I see it (nerdy) thing to do for high school kids.

On the other hand, I'm always looking for the next best vape gear. Just like how I have an addiction for having ridiculously powerful computer hardware and constantly buying new hardware that I don't need. I always want something better than what I've got. Vaping has turned into a bigger addiction than cigatettes ever was for me, and I smoked for about 21 years. I traded cigarette addiction for shiny metal tube addiction.:p

Man we are too alike, get help now!
My wife threatened to leave me if i didnt quit smoking, so i started vapin and she was fine with that for a while. Till it consumed me! I am watching her pack now to leave with the kids because not only am i engrossed all my waking hours I now go bed holding my "precious" instead of her ;)
 

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Cloud comps are usually performed in a vape shop around people who don't mind it. To the person complaining of clouds going in their face - I understand. But cloud comps are usually contained.

I wasn't complaining. I was being real. I don't have a problem with people blowing clouds, just around myself. It only happened once when I was with my wife and I told the dude to have a little bit of respect for others and walked away.

My comment was directed to the post I quoted not comps in particular.

This whole thing brought the memory of a post I made a year or so ago and someone challenged me to a vaping competition. I laughed so hard my sides hurt.
 

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Biggest problem facing the vaping community = ANTZ (of the professional, full blown variety)

Anyone, including a fellow vaper, who tells you it is something else, likely doesn't know what they are talking about. This could be rather easy to discover by having a short exchange with them and seeing if they understand how long ANTZ have been around and what tactics they have resorted to. Most of which were initiated before vaping (nicotine) was even conceived of.

Second biggest problem is general public that is brainwashed by ANTZ rhetoric, which just so happens to include many vapers.

Third biggest problem, IMO, would be the type of vaper who claims that these were originally intended to get one off of smokes, but now 1 year later they are still vaping when it is highly likely their smoking addiction is gone. Hence, they ought to be stopping vaping to keep vaping in good standing and to match what is this claim about getting away from smoking. Their continuance of vaping shows the non-vaping, ANTZ influenced public, that it is really about substituting one life-long addiction (to nicotine) for another. I'm thinking ANTZ will forever have a field day with that.

Fourth biggest problem are dual users like myself. As I have conflict of interest on this one, I'll just note that dual users are the nicest, most fair-minded people you will ever meet.

Fifth biggest problem is the people who will vape everywhere, but without respect or consideration to the people in certain places.

Sixth biggest problem is that kids are vaping when we have explicit laws against this. Why won't these kids just fall in line with all the other brainwashed folks out there? Won't anyone think of (punishing) the children?

Seventh biggest problem facing the vaping community is vapers who use older gear that isn't as great as newest innovations and so when ANTZ scientists test the older gear, that they deem as 'most popular' it allows them to make note of problems with devices and to continue brainwashing people with lack of pertinent or relevant data.

Eighth biggest problem are democrats, which is really the third biggest problem, but if I put this higher on the list, then it seems all political, which in reality it is, but because I'm political minded myself, I thought I better tuck this down near the bottom or the brainwashed folks will get overly offended.

Ninth biggest problem is that science hasn't yet invented replicators which would get eLiquid to consumers much quicker and not have anyone ever feel like they have to resort to the 'popular' older type devices (see 7th biggest problem) that are purchased in your nearby convenience store.

Tenth biggest problem is all these cloud chasers who like every vaper, ever, love to see what is exhaled out of their mouth because, well, it is really interesting and/or cool to watch clouds come out of your mouth. But then to turn it into a contest? And have fun with it? That's where I draw a line on the 10th biggest problem facing the vaping community. I hope all you cloud chasing competitors realize that the brainwashed folks are going to absolutely hate what you are doing on your own time. Their judgments about you are not only righteous but just so happen to fall in line with the 2nd biggest problem facing the vaping community.
 

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With all the car accidents related death each year, im honestly suprised Big Government hasnt shut down car factories and closed down dealerships.

So lets stop driving and save lifes.

im pretty sure you cant build any car and drive it on the streets, there are regulations in place for that lol. if the cars weren't regulated by laws that are put into place to make it safer, then what you said might make sense. but right now there are no regulations in vaping or money people have to spend to get their product 'certified' by big brother, before they send it out to the public. right now it saves small companies money, saves us money, due to companies not having to pay fees and pass 'fda regulations' for their devices/juice. but more incidents like the one that happened at vape bash is adding more wepaons to their arsenal to use against us.
 

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im pretty sure you cant build any car and drive it on the streets, there are regulations in place for that lol. if the cars weren't regulated by laws that are put into place to make it safer, then what you said might make sense. but right now there are no regulations in vaping or money people have to spend to get their product 'certified' by big brother, before they send it out to the public. right now it saves small companies money, saves us money, due to companies not having to pay fees and pass 'fda regulations' for their devices/juice. but more incidents like the one that happened at vape bash is adding more wepaons to their arsenal to use against us.

You missing the point. Regulating cars or vaping devices wont prevent people from being hurt. Its the people that need to be regulated. But that would mean loss of freedom.

Thus .....ing about vaping competition is pointless. People get hurt at every sport, even at beer pong.
 

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You missing the point. Regulating cars or vaping devices wont prevent people from being hurt. Its the people that need to be regulated. But that would mean loss of freedom.

Thus .....ing about vaping competition is pointless. People get hurt at every sport, even at beer pong.

you're missing the point, its not the fact that they are getting hurt. its the fact that this is happening in publicized events now. i agree people should be more responsible, im just voicing my opinion on the matter. Regulations on cars lowers the amount of people who get hurt. will people get hurt still? yes. Regulating vaping devices and juice would also lower the amount of people getting hurt, but I'd rather buy stuff at the cost it is now, rather than paying much more for bottles of juice and mods due to the fact vendors would have to raise prices due to having to pay to pass fda regulations in the future. will it happen? when will it happen? we dont know, but it doesnt hurt trying to prevent it from happening sooner. If/when it does happen, we will see all these small business vape shops not be able to sustain themselves and big business will take over vaping as few large franchies rather than many small businesses, and I personally don't want that to happen anytime soon.

vaping is a safer and cheaper alternative to cigarettes, if/when fda regulations come into place and big business takes over, say goodbye to savings and small businesses.
 
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Regulations on cars lowers the amount of people who get hurt. will people get hurt still? yes. Regulating vaping devices and juice would also lower the amount of people getting hurt, but I'd rather buy stuff at the cost it is now, rather than paying much more for bottles of juice and mods due to the fact vendors would have to raise prices due to having to pay to pass fda regulations in the future. will it happen? when will it happen? we dont know, but it doesnt hurt trying to prevent it from happening sooner. If/when it does happen, we will see all these small business vape shops not be able to sustain themselves and big business will take over vaping as few large franchies rather than many small businesses, and I personally don't want that to happen anytime soon.

vaping is a safer and cheaper alternative to cigarettes, if/when fda regulations come into place and big business takes over, say goodbye to savings and small businesses.

On the part I bolded, I have predicted the opposite. Would love to wager with someone on this. We can take data from the last 3 years before regulations went into effect and compare that to first 3 years of regulations being in place. I predict more people will have claims of harm and/or be hurt with regulations in place.
 

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you're missing the point, its not the fact that they are getting hurt. its the fact that this is happening in publicized events now. i agree people should be more responsible, im just voicing my opinion on the matter. Regulations on cars lowers the amount of people who get hurt. will people get hurt still? yes. Regulating vaping devices and juice would also lower the amount of people getting hurt, but I'd rather buy stuff at the cost it is now, rather than paying much more for bottles of juice and mods due to the fact vendors would have to raise prices due to having to pay to pass fda regulations in the future. will it happen? when will it happen? we dont know, but it doesnt hurt trying to prevent it from happening sooner. If/when it does happen, we will see all these small business vape shops not be able to sustain themselves and big business will take over vaping as few large franchies rather than many small businesses, and I personally don't want that to happen anytime soon.

vaping is a safer and cheaper alternative to cigarettes, if/when fda regulations come into place and big business takes over, say goodbye to savings and small businesses.


Have you ever bought fresh vegetables directly from the grower on the side of the road? Guess what, they are not regulated by FDA and they are doing just fine. Our US juice makers have not given any reason to anyone to be regulated, just as long as none of them start putting rat poison in their juice.

And even IF a big government man puts a big lock and regulate the crap of vaping, people will still get hurt one way or another. Just like people are still dying in car accidents.

Whats next? Regulating walking because millions of people twist their ankles each day?


So lets put those till foil hats too a better use.
 

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that might be a possibility, but i think most of it will be due to the fact that people can get something out of it or since its labeled 'safe' they will be more angry and actually act on it saying the FDA/companies arent doing their jobs. It would be too hard to document all the incidents that happen before regulations. I agree that there probably would be more claims, but to what degree? Burning their tongue, stomach ache, isn't as advertised? Im sure there will be lots of 'petty' claims, that are already happening now that nobody are fighting for and publicizing.
 
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