Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[Nancy D]

Staying on topic, I hope the FDA doesn't attempt deeming regs on rhubarb pies. My Dad has one waiting for me when I head up to mow his lawn later!

We need a “what do you eat while vaping” thread.

 

[DaveP]

I've only seen blunt syringes at bigger sizes in a few places. Can you just pour VG? Or do I have to warm it up no matter what? In a double boiler?

I use pipettes to put Nic into my bottles on the scale. I pour PG and VG into the bottle with a small wide mouth funnel. They will suck up thicker liquids at room temperature with ease. You get 100 of them in a bag for a few bucks and I toss them after one use.

 

[DaveP]

Typical. Smith has been an e-cig basher for a long time.

vaping won't affect him, but the stress and long hours of a high power worldwide news network coupled with the after work meetings at the bar down the street with his cohorts might. We all have our personal vices. I was happy to be able to quit smoking cigarettes any safer way I could.

 

[Nancy D]

I use pipettes to put Nic into my bottles on the scale. I pour PG and VG into the bottle with a small wide mouth funnel. They will suck up thicker liquids at room temperature with ease. You get 100 of them in a bag for a few bucks and I toss them after one use.

Pipettes work by themselves or attached to a syringe? I’ve gotta wait to get DIY stuff now, since I overspent a bit. But this aspect of vaping interests me a lot. Thanks, Dave.
Btw, I was looking at old posts and your guitars are amazing.

 

[dreamvaper]

Ouch! Your replies are painful sometimes

Naah, just joking.

Now a serious one: you joined ECF about a week ago, being the most active user of the community since then. Aren't you a BigT or BigF spy?

 

[Nancy D]

Naah, just joking.

Now a serious one: you joined ECF about a week ago, being the most active user of the community since then. Aren't you a BigT or BigF spy?

In my spare time. No, j/k. Actually if I was trying to be clever, i’d keep a really low profile...
I had an eye infection and was on antibi’s and just was slightly manic. It’s easy for me to write since I got a degree in English/writing. Also, I was kicking cigs and going a bit mental, quite honestly. Sorry it’s not a sexier story!

 

[dreamvaper]

OK,

slightly manic

is pretty much a norm around here

 

[Skrû_ball]

Was just reading some posts, and thought I would add something, “organic” does not mean they do not use pesticides at all, it just means they can only use certain naturally occurring carbon based pesticides to retain the organic moniker. Also not all naturally occurring chemicals are something I want to vape, Anthrax is carbon based, organic, and occurs naturally in hoofed animals, just for example . Also here is an article I thought had good info on the subject. Cheers erybody. Organic Pesticides: Not An Oxymoron

 

[Zazie]

And one of those pesticides is . . . nicotine!

 

[ENAUD]

And one of those pesticides is . . . nicotine!

Great! Now the ANTZ are in on our secret, we like vaping pesticides!

[Edit]

Synthetic compounds can also make it onto the list as pesticides, if they are relatively nontoxic combinations that include minerals or natural elements, such as copper or sulfur. But some naturally occuring substances, such as nicotine and arsenic are off limits.

^^quoted from linked article...

§205.602 Nonsynthetic substances prohibited for use in organic crop production.
The following nonsynthetic substances may not be used in organic crop production:

(a) Ash from manure burning.

(b) Arsenic.

(c) Calcium chloride, brine process is natural and prohibited for use except as a foliar spray to treat a physiological disorder associated with calcium uptake.

(d) Lead salts.

(e) Potassium chloride—unless derived from a mined source and applied in a manner that minimizes chloride accumulation in the soil.

(f) Rotenone (CAS # 83-79-4).

(g) Sodium fluoaluminate (mined).

(h) Sodium nitrate—unless use is restricted to no more than 20% of the crop's total nitrogen requirement; use in spirulina production is unrestricted until October 21, 2005.

(i) Strychnine.

(j) Tobacco dust (nicotine sulfate).

[68 FR 61992, Oct. 31, 2003, as amended at 83 FR 66572, Dec. 27, 2018]

^^quoted from
Electronic Code of Federal Regulations
e-CFR data is current as of May 24, 2019

eCFR — Code of Federal Regulations

 

[Eskie]

And one of those pesticides is . . . nicotine!

Beat me to it. Yup, most of the stuff out there that can hurt you, including the crap generated by burning tobacco, is organic.

 

[DaveP]

Pipettes work by themselves or attached to a syringe? I’ve gotta wait to get DIY stuff now, since I overspent a bit. But this aspect of vaping interests me a lot. Thanks, Dave.
Btw, I was looking at old posts and your guitars are amazing.

Thanks! I don't have a large collection of guitars, just my favorite models.

The pipettes I use are silicone tubes that work like a dropper. I usually use them for nic. For PG and VG I use clear condiment type squeeze bottles that I bought at Bed Bath and Beyond. Both work well with a bottle on a scale. I use a small wide mouth funnel for dispensing ingredients into the bottle. It hasn't happened to me in several years of DIY, but I suppose if you squeeze the bottles too hard the top could pop off. Go slow!

The pipettes are graduated to 3ml, but hold up to 5ml if you fill them completely, and come in packs of 100 for a few bucks. I get mine from Amazon.

https://www.amazon.com/Graduated-Karter-Scientific-Variations-Available/dp/B07MNHC1T1

 

[Bronze]

Was just reading some posts, and thought I would add something, “organic” does not mean they do not use pesticides at all, it just means they can only use certain naturally occurring carbon based pesticides to retain the organic moniker. Also not all naturally occurring chemicals are something I want to vape, Anthrax is carbon based, organic, and occurs naturally in hoofed animals, just for example . Also here is an article I thought had good info on the subject. Cheers erybody. Organic Pesticides: Not An Oxymoron

When I use the word "pesticide" it is with the intent it was a man-made concoction. If I were referring to a natural pesticide I would call it a "Natural pesticide". For the record.

 

[DaveP]

Shep Smith doing more e-cig bashing at 3PM on Fox News. He likes bashing e-cigs.

Strange that he's a smoker and bashes ecigs.

 

[DavidOck]

Strange that he's a smoker and bashes ecigs.

Perhaps the technology of vaping is beyond his brain space?

 

[Bronze]

I don't know if he's a smoker or not. All I know is I have seen him do 4 or 5 e-cig segments and every one of them has been negative.

 

[5cardstud]

The primary constraint to being able to DYI in the future is whether you'll have access to nicotine. Everything else needed has numerous other uses and is unlikely to become difficult to obtain.

I started buying nic base two weeks after I quit smoking in December of 2013 without really intending to. I had no clue about DIY at that point, but figure if push came to shove, I'd figure it out, and there was no way I'd ever let anyone take the miracle of vaping away from me. I didn't start DIYing unit a couple of years later. Since then, the cost of my consumables has worked out to around $50-60 per year.

I can personally vouch for the fact that properly packaged nicotine base has a very long life in a freezer. The liquid I'm vaping right now was made using nic base that I bought more than five years ago.

Bottom line: Buy some nic base and put it in your freezer. You'll sleep better at night not having to worry about getting fracked.

I bought around 400 mg of 100 mg/ml and it's been in the freezer ever since. I'm not going to run out for a while.

 

[dreamvaper]

t's been in the freezer ever since

it stays in a liquid form in the freezer?

 

[FranC]

it stays in a liquid form in the freezer?

Yes,it does.

 

[dreamvaper]

I saw some testing of the 2009 e-liquids (wasn't kept in a freezer, about 9 years past due date). They had 4 samples and 3 of the 4 were still vapable, one of which was even very good according to them. So I guess it's not a bad idea to make a long term investments in e-liquids and DIY ingredients.