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Should I store Nicotine Products in the freezer?
No, Absolutely not. There are two components in 100MG/ML nicotine, either nicotine and vegetable glycerin, or nicotine and propylene glycol. Although most freezer units keep temperatures around zero degrees Fharenheit some will fluctuate downward by three to five degrees, and upward by two to three degrees. While propylene glycol is not readily affected by this temperature range, both Nicotine and Vegetable Glycerin are. Damage occurs to100mg/ml nicotine products when oxides form during near-freeze/thaw cycles. So while the ice inside stays "ice," outside temperatures, thermostat performance and the number of times the freezer door is opened will affect 100MG/ML nicotine in this sensitive temperature range. Typical refrigeration temperatures, or even room temperatures are a much safer storage range than 27-33F because they are well away from freeze/thaw potential.
 

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That's what scares me about nic and PG/VG. Flavorings can mask only so much. If you go out and get a barrel of these base ingredients and it turns out to taste like bat poo then the only value you get is the barrel itself. I can see where sampling is critical here. As you say, waiting for cooler weather would probably be smart but perhaps starting the sampling process using small quantities would be wise to begin now.
Both nude nic and Carolina extract have sample sizes, you can get single liters of PG and VG on Amazon, I highly recommend Essential Depot for those. For mixing, a 200 ml cylinder, polypropylene is recommended, and a 5 ml syringe with a blunt tip is all you really need to get started. Any old bottle large enough to hold your ingredients and shake them up will suffice. good luck.
 

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Both nude nic and Carolina extract have sample sizes, you can get single liters of PG and VG on Amazon, I highly recommend Essential Depot for those. For mixing, a 200 ml cylinder, polypropylene is recommended, and a 5 ml syringe with a blunt tip is all you really need to get started. Any old bottle large enough to hold your ingredients and shake them up will suffice. good luck.
Have you ever been to the Carolina Extracts store?
 
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I see Nude says their Argon V1 lasts up to two years. That's not very long.
My most recent mix was with Armor V1 that's spent the last five years in my freezer. It's good as new.

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Should I store Nicotine Products in the freezer?
No, Absolutely not.
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Nic Base Storage: Freezer vs. Room Temp Experiment
 

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Best vendors for nic? And why are they the best??

IMO (and only if price doesn't factor into "best"):
  • Nude Nicotine because you can buy their Armor V1 that's freezer-ready, argon-purged, in glass bottles, and it's a very clean conventionally extracted nic.

I have to go with Rossum on the Nude Nicotine, never tried the Carolina stuff. I have a lot of NN in my freezer and I have never noticed any particular flavor ecept a very light "sweetness" which may be that I use VG diluted with water - no PG. I get it 100% VG. Mrs CMD is a frost free freezer kind of gal. To combat the defrost cycle, I wrap the bottles in a few layers of bubble wrap for insulation. Also, I buy the stuff packed with Argon in 500 ML bottles and never transfer it to other containers. When I open a new bottle, I let it thin in room temp then just take out my 18 ML re-wrap it and stick it back in the freezer. I have not noticed any degradation of quality but I am not a discriminating vaper. So who knows, your palate may vary.
 

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I don't put much stock in what a nic supplier recommends, after all they want to sell nic, and sell it often.
Like others, I'm using 5 year old nic without issue.
Recommending freezer storage isn't exactly making your product more enticing when most people either don't have the room in their freezer or don't want to mess around with freezing anything but ice cream and t-bone steaks. :)
 

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Recommending freezer storage isn't exactly making your product more enticing when most people either don't have the room in their freezer or don't want to mess around with freezing anything but ice cream and t-bone steaks. :)

I know a guy who knows a guy who, in addition to ice cream and steaks, freezes vodka. They swear, no degradation.
 

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