Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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I wonder if regulation topics will come up in the debate tonight. Kind of doubt it, but who knows?
What a ban on flavor means, strikes me as obvious. There's what anti's hope a flavor ban will do. That's living in la la land. A ban will mean: all stockpilers will feel rather content, a market will emerge for those who chose not to stockpile. That market is quite likely to have at least 10% bad actors. I would venture to guess that 90% of the buyers on that market will be mostly satisfied to satisfied. Teens will definitely, without any doubt, be buyers on that market. All of this is super obvious and will be basic facts under any such ban.
In the age of social media, and given that it is frickin' flavors that we're talking about, I can't see prohibition lasting all that long. I see it getting mocked left and right. Often. Exposed for the silliness it is.
That to me is the main point right now. I honestly think you have to be a dumb politician to ban flavors. To over regulate flavors, is just mean, but not dumb. Knowing that the recent vaping deaths likely have nothing to do with flavors in nicotine vapes makes for basic dumbness. Understanding that a bad actor on the black market is the predominantly likely culprit, and then going for a BAN after THAT, is dumb beyond belief. Like how is that even possible you could not think that through for all of 4 seconds?
With that said, I don't see this as a false flag operation. I think it is bad actor doing bad acting, as is bound to happen. And then it's anti's being hyper anti and trying to pounce. And sure as hellfire they certainly seem to be taking things up a notch. Overplaying their pathetic hand, as usual. But what a ban actually means vs the delusion the anti sees occurring is just another example of dumb beyond belief.
It's a shame (some) friends and family have to play a role in the dumb side of the equation, going forward.
In the age of social media, and given that it is frickin' flavors that we're talking about, I can't see prohibition lasting all that long. I see it getting mocked left and right. Often. Exposed for the silliness it is.
That to me is the main point right now. I honestly think you have to be a dumb politician to ban flavors. To over regulate flavors, is just mean, but not dumb. Knowing that the recent vaping deaths likely have nothing to do with flavors in nicotine vapes makes for basic dumbness. Understanding that a bad actor on the black market is the predominantly likely culprit, and then going for a BAN after THAT, is dumb beyond belief. Like how is that even possible you could not think that through for all of 4 seconds?
With that said, I don't see this as a false flag operation. I think it is bad actor doing bad acting, as is bound to happen. And then it's anti's being hyper anti and trying to pounce. And sure as hellfire they certainly seem to be taking things up a notch. Overplaying their pathetic hand, as usual. But what a ban actually means vs the delusion the anti sees occurring is just another example of dumb beyond belief.
It's a shame (some) friends and family have to play a role in the dumb side of the equation, going forward.
Saw that one. Too funny. Nobody knows what the heck they are talking about, but that doesn't stop them.
He's for banning/regulating nicotine vapes.
This whole issue is crazy town right now. I have been doing my best to drive Trump and his affiliates nuts with info.
This is just more evidence of what living in an Oligarchy (Corporate controlled government, owns politicians and that "deregulate" themselves and add regulations that favor themselves) is like.
Congrats all. And just so you know, it happens on BOTH sides of the aisle. The ones that get screwed are the people.
I want campaign finance reforms. Always have, but now more than ever.
What drug dealers (looking at BP and BT here) don't want to corner the market and squash the competition?
Congrats all. And just so you know, it happens on BOTH sides of the aisle. The ones that get screwed are the people.
I want campaign finance reforms. Always have, but now more than ever.
What drug dealers (looking at BP and BT here) don't want to corner the market and squash the competition?
I want the enumerated powers in the Constitution adhered to. Because if they were, we would not be having this problem at all.
Greg is on a roll:
I saw the interview live. Harris Faulkner is one of the better news persons around. She asks very probing questions but doesn’t attack her guests. Greg did a very good job in both interviews.
Uhm....not to be argumentative, but that's a bit of a leap.
Cannabis is regulated due to interstate commerce laws (which are enumerated). I suspect that will change.
As to FDA, etc. Not sure, looking it up, but probably similar, and also maybe "general welfare".
SCOTUS has upheld the green stuff and FDA against challenges before. And SCOTUS is definitely enumerated as part of the process. So I'm afraid it isn't that simple.
Besides, lack of regulation will just give big-corporate more clout, since they have the money to drive everyone else out of business. Hell, they could do it state by state just by making their juice basically free, selling it at a loss until each local group went under, then moving to the next state.
It's regulation (of the proper types) that keep the market not-monopolized. We used to do that. It started changing around the late 70's/early 80's. Now we have an oligarchy, corporate controlled swamp. Big money talks. And tricks.
Commerce Clause - Wikipedia
When Conley mentioned TeeHCee, the female commentator said, 'No, her mother said she was using vaping to stop smoking."
While it is true that there was no mention that THIS time there was no TeeHCee
1. Two weeks ago, Livingston started to suffer from symptoms that resembled a stomach virus and she developed a fever, cough and rapid breathing.
2. “She could have almost died,” Audas told Fox 4 News. “And her oxygen had already dropped all the way. There was pneumonia in both lungs. The doctor said it looked like no pneumonia he’d ever seen.”
[this 'almost died' and pneumonia in both lungs and like none the doctor had seen, correlates with the same comments that have been made of the 5 or 6 who have died linked to teeHcee/vit.E acetate. ]
3. from East Texas Teen Battling Possible Vaping-Related Illness
the video mom says she was vaping pods - again, a collaborating aspect, and:
She estimates her daughter vaped three to four e-cigarette pods, equivalent to three to four packs of cigarettes, a week.
She (mom) admitted that her daughter had tried other vaping devices, known as dab pens, that can be used for drugs or potent oils, but it's unknown whether that was a factor. [WHY??? A good reporter would have asked.]
Greg should get this link so he can respond with this information
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The female commentator said according to local media blah blah blah...just shows how poorly the media reports news. Just like CNN.
Her mother said. Really...
Why isn't CDC conducting urine tests for presence of cannabis? That's the only way to establish scientifically what has been inhaled by the patient. The whole thing is a joke. Self-reporting from teenagers and their parents? Really?
Also, I don't know if it's the same person, but Martha McCallum (in her interview mentioned earlier by Horselady) had the parents of a girl hospitalized with lipoid pneumonia (I think) and they both admitted that the girl was using THC vapes but they still blame nicotine vapes because their pulmonologist (God help us) said that there are "dangerous chemicals in e-cigarettes."
*sigh*
BTW, we can now say THC and cannabis and marijuana.
Saw another on CNN, where the commentator, Kate Bolduan., would interrupt ever answer he attempted
Her mother said. Really...
Yes, and... It was her mother who started her vaping, after learning she was smoking.
I saw one interviewer say the reason smokers quit smoking is to eliminate nicotine and didn’t understand why they would vape when e-liquid has nicotine in it.
Does that really surprise you?
https://www.usnews.com/news/politic...-3-americans-wouldnt-pass-us-citizenship-test
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