Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[sailorman]

Ooh I did not think of the no taste thing.

Yeah definitely I'd be smoking.

Anna

With a tracheotomy, the technique would be to start like a MTL hit and then just roll the vapor around in your head and sinuses. No need to inhale into your lungs to get nicotine absorption. With the hi nic salts they have now, it'd be a piece of cake but even regular juice works fine.
I had a bronchitis attack once that was so bad I may as well have had a tracheotomy. I was able to keep vaping that way when I was having trouble inhaling air, let alone vapor.

 

[Bronze]

If they don't ban hard liquors and regular cigs first, all they say about "doing it to protect our youth" is just a bullsh@t. Like they don't know how many died resulting to drinking/smoking yearly compared to "vaping related" deaths, not even mentioning that if these vapers did vape normal juices (or used good batteries) that wouldn't happen.

So what is the death toll so far for this latest vape "epidemic"? Six? I'll bet six people died from smoking in the last 15 minutes.

 

[dreamvaper]

Another nice info and a vid on the topic comparing with the UK researches
5 years later the initial report, "95% less harmful than regular smoking" appears to be even better than that!
And yet they are ready to ban it. That's unbelievably shameful. Seems like they want ppl in the US to keep buying regular cigs and eventually paying for their lung cancer treatment bills as much as they do now.

 

[dreamvaper]

I'll bet six people died from smoking in the last 15 minutes

yep it's approx. 1300/day, (according to CDC) more than 50+ every hour. But these deaths are completely fine. They paid their taxes.

 

[Bronze]

yep it's approx. 1300/day, (according to CDC) more than 50+ every hour. But these deaths are completely fine. They paid their taxes.

We have a death tax in the States so you can add that too.

 

[PatVapes]

So what is the death toll so far for this latest vape "epidemic"? Six? I'll bet six people died from smoking in the last 15 minutes.

I don’t know if I’ve watched one or two videos where they said that hundreds have died from vaping nicotine. I don’t know what to believe, but it seems like a scare tactic to me

 

[sailorman]

Why is there flavored vodka and other liquor?
Why is there cheapo sweet flavored wine like I used to drink when I was 14?
Why isn't Trump demanding alcohol come in two flavors, Everclear and Beer?
Where's Melania?

ISN'T ANYONE THINKING OF THE CHILDREN?!!

 

[Bronze]

I don’t know if I’ve watched one or two videos where they said that hundreds have died from vaping nicotine. I don’t know what to believe, but it seems like a scare tactic to me

There is a lot of misinformation being spread out there. Nicotine is pretty low on the list of harmful substances.

 

[sailorman]

We have a death tax in the States so you can add that too.

Nah... Demographically, smokers are clustered on the lower end of the socioeconomic scale. The vast, vast majority don't leave mid-8 figure inheritances to their privileged scions, so estate taxes don't add up to much more than a rounding error.
Besides, by the time you die from lung cancer or emphysema, medical costs would probably have eaten up any excess wealth that might have pushed you into the rarefied territory of estate taxes.

 

[Terri McVeety]

Why is there flavored vodka and other liquor?
Why is there cheapo sweet flavored wine like I used to drink when I was 14?
Why isn't Trump demanding alcohol come in two flavors, Everclear and Beer?
Where's Melania?

ISN'T ANYONE THINKING OF THE CHILDREN?!!

Melania started it. “For the children”


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[dreamvaper]

Where's Melania

teaching kids how to be safe with liquids

 

[Bronze]

Nah... Demographically, smokers are clustered on the lower end of the socioeconomic scale. The vast, vast majority don't leave mid-8 figure inheritances to their privileged scions, so estate taxes don't add up to much more than a rounding error.
Besides, by the time you die from lung cancer or emphysema, medical costs would probably have eaten up any excess wealth that might have pushed you into the rarefied territory of estate taxes.

Wealthy people smoke too.

 

[Eskie]

Wealthy people smoke too.

Not at rates even close to lower socioeconomic groups though.

 

[JohnWT]

Banning flavors is beyond stupid. If the government really cared about the welfare of the people, they would ban cigarettes. As someone mentioned, CDC stats show that 1300 people a day die from cigarrete-related diseases.

The short term answer is to stock up to the gills until sanity returns, if ever. You can't expect politicians to do the right thing.

 

[zoiDman]

... If the government really cared about the welfare of the people, they would ban cigarettes. ...

Who is Under such an Illusion that the Government Cares about your Welfare ?

Goal #1: Vote for Our Party
Goal #2: Pay your Taxes while Keeping your Mouth Shut.
Goal #3: See Goal #1

That's about the Sum and Substance of the Political System here in the USA.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Banning flavors is beyond stupid. If the government really cared about the welfare of the people, they would ban cigarettes. As someone mentioned, CDC stats show that 1300 people a day die from cigarrete-related diseases.

The short term answer is to stock up to the gills until sanity returns, if ever. You can't expect politicians to do the right thing.

Key word in sentence number two, "If...".

 

[Kent C]

I don’t know if I’ve watched one or two videos where they said that hundreds have died from vaping nicotine.

Haven't seen any like that, but scientific studies (even anti-vaping ones) wouldn't back that at all. The latest news on "hundreds" was people with lung conditions from vaping thc cut with vitamin E acetate.

 

[Kent C]

So what is the death toll so far for this latest vape "epidemic"? Six? I'll bet six people died from smoking in the last 15 minutes.

Or committed suicide taking Chantix.

 

[PatVapes]

Haven't seen any like that, but scientific studies (even anti-vaping ones) wouldn't back that at all. The latest news on "hundreds" was people with lung conditions from vaping thc cut with vitamin E acetate.

Yup, I know. I’m educated on the topic. However, I’ve watched a couple of videos, as I’ve already mentioned, that said that all those cases are from vaping nicotine and nowhere in the video do they mention that they were actually caused by thc cartridges.

 

[DavidOck]

I don't anyone was doubting what you've seen, Pat. Yeah, misinformation and lies are permeating the air and web waves. All too easy to put them out, since there seem to be so few interested in facts. Truth doesn't get a lot of "likes" or retweets. Gotta have something sensational for those...