Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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I have to disagree with this.
Flavorings and VG/PG won't be banned.
Nicotine will be taxed heavily. Stock up before that happens.
Atomizers and mods are made from metals, plastics and polymer composites. Those won't be banned. Just repair your existing ones when they breakdown, build new ones and make spare parts.
Wire and cotton won't be banned.
batteries won't be banned.
True enough. I think there is a huge difference IMHO between the two, but heading there would be way off topic.
I have had my say and will now be quiet.
Doesn't matter to those who have stocked up. Which I'm guessing is a rather small percentage.
What you said might be true for some existing vapers. Those who were willing to risk delving into black markets and take a chance on the quality and purity of what was available there, and pay the inflated premium. Or build their own gear. Some vapers would go that way, don't know how many.
I suspect the number of smokers looking to quit who would be willing to dive into something that expensive and complicated and risky would be close to zero. Most people in that situation never go further than stopping at the vape shop. Same is true of most vapers.
If the vape shops go away, which seems likely at this point, it would be like knocking a leg off a three legged stool.
The people that already DIY their own mixes and are aware of the upcoming nicotine tax are already stocked up on nicotine or are in the process of doing so.
A gallon of 100mg/ml can be bought for about $300 and easily last a person 10 years.
If someone doesn't DIY their liquid yet, they need to buy nicotine before it's taxed and learn to mix.
Building mech mods/atomizers/making spare parts can be learned.
*Use a 3D printer/cast and molding methods/lathe/drill press to make mods, atomizers and spare parts.
*Use a tap and die set to add threading to parts.
Alternatively, hire a machinist.
Vaping won't be eliminated, but it'll be handicapped. Some people will be forced to get creative and some will go back to smoking or another alternative.
IQOS/Heets will probably be pushed as an alternative for people that want to quit smoking.
There is a reason for that.
The U.K. Seems to recognize the painfully obvious.
Vaping and lung disease in the US: PHE’s advice - Public health matters
Wow a sensible publication how weird.
It was kind of annoying sometimes when I was amassing "educational materials and the best sites were Canada, UK, and AUZ I mean but it was blazened all over them. I'd have to find the US sheet that sucked the least. Sigh.
Anna
It was kind of annoying sometimes when I was amassing "educational materials and the best sites were Canada, UK, and AUZ I mean but it was blazened all over them. I'd have to find the US sheet that sucked the least. Sigh.
Anna
National Call to Action - Light up the White House Switchboard
The White House needs to hear from adult vapers and anyone who loves a vaper! A flavor ban won’t protect our children, but it will kill their parents.
We need to
Light Up The Switchboard
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The White House needs to hear from adult vapers and anyone who loves a vaper! A flavor ban won’t protect our children, but it will kill their parents.
We need to
Light Up The Switchboard
At The Whitehouse!
Ph: 202-456-1111
(Comment Line)
or
202-456-1414
(Switchboard)
On your call:
- The operator will likely ask where they can direct your call
- Simply tell them that flavored vapor products saved your life,
- Tobacco and Menthol aren't enough to save small businesses or help people quit smoking; and,
- tell them “We Vape, We Vote.
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November 4, 2019
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Well, I hope so!
November 4, 2019
Thank you for contacting the White House. We are carefully reviewing your message. (...)"
Well, I hope so!
Better than the US anyway. The painful and obvious are things the US seems incapable of dealing with at the moment.
Can you confirm that US eBay is "vaping free" now? No devices and no juices (even 0 nic?)
What about Amazon?
What about Amazon?
98%, there are a few listings with obfuscated descriptions sneaking through, but not many at all.
Both Amazon and eBay.
I for one have absolutely zero plans to comply. Even if it comes to the point that they jail me for possession of an e-cigarette product, I will still not give another dime to big tobacco.
Stupid politicians. They're going after the wrong ...., too.
If they really wanted to stop people from getting sick, they'd legalize. Endof.
Yet you can still get flavored DIY 'stuff' for making you own 'other stuff'.
And it's Vitamin=E free. https://smile.amazon.com/Bottles-Li...1_7?keywords=dank+vapes&qid=1572954965&sr=8-7
I’m not sure who “you” is in this case. Zero is traditionally a hard number to reach in anything. Near zero is often much more doable.
It is interesting that a study that disputes the prevailing anti-vaping avalanche is being eyed much more critically than anti-vaping leaning studies that were at best no better. It has some much larger statistical base numbers than some earlier studies.
I personally think all studies need to be eyed critically.
It's all relative. We all hasten the end of life in some way. Last night, my wife and I were eating supper in a local restaurant a couple of tables away from us there were what looked like two twin brothers, who weighed something in the range of 400 or more pounds each. When they got into their pickup truck and left they were nearly a half ton load in themselves.
There are worse things than vaping.
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