Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[thanswr1]

Just my opinion, but this story about the FDA sending agents to check on B&M shops and online vendors with B&M shops doesn't seem right. And for several reasons.

It would take a massive force to check on every sku in every shop and online shop. At this point, the FDA can't find its ... with both hands, a mirror, and a map.

My guess has always told me the FDA never intended for the PMTA process to get as far as it has and reach this point. It got away from the FDA. IMO, one of the reasons why the FDA did not start the process in 2016 because it is a herculean and damn impossible task to check everything being sold. The only reason the FDA is starting the process now is because a court forced their hand.

Let's set up a scenario by which an FDA agent walks into a shop and wants to see a PMTA filing for every product. When the filing cost upwards of $500,000, the paperwork isn't at the shop. It's at the lawyer's office. Does the agent then go to the lawyer's office and demand to see the paperwork? Remember this is a lawyer's office. They won't be seeing anything without a court order and that takes time.

I don't know how this is all going to play out. But I do believe the FDA will be inundated with PMTA filings up the wazoo. They cannot possibly check every line item. We might just see a wholesale "approved" from the FDA. Some regulation about labs and manufacturing, but that's it.

I could be wrong.

 

[Bronze]

Just my opinion, but this story about the FDA sending agents to check on B&M shops and online vendors with B&M shops doesn't seem right. And for several reasons.

It would take a massive force to check on every sku in every shop and online shop. At this point, the FDA can't find its ... with both hands, a mirror, and a map.

My guess has always told me the FDA never intended for the PMTA process to get as far as it has and reach this point. It got away from the FDA. IMO, one of the reasons why the FDA did not start the process in 2016 because it is a herculean and damn impossible task to check everything being sold. The only reason the FDA is starting the process now is because a court forced their hand.

Let's set up a scenario by which an FDA agent walks into a shop and wants to see a PMTA filing for every product. When the filing cost upwards of $500,000, the paperwork isn't at the shop. It's at the lawyer's office. Does the agent then go to the lawyer's office and demand to see the paperwork? Remember this is a lawyer's office. They won't be seeing anything without a court order and that takes time.

I don't know how this is all going to play out. But I do believe the FDA will be inundated with PMTA filings up the wazoo. They cannot possibly check every line item. We might just see a wholesale "approved" from the FDA. Some regulation about labs and manufacturing, but that's it.

I could be wrong.

It will end up like Skylab and Y2K. Remember those? Me neither.

 

[DavidOck]

Grimm just reported that the FDA is doing a hiring to go around to bust shops and manufactures that carry products without a PMTA.

And they'll be checking against the list that doesn't exist?

 

[HigherStateD]

Just my opinion, but this story about the FDA sending agents to check on B&M shops and online vendors with B&M shops doesn't seem right. And for several reasons.

It would take a massive force to check on every sku in every shop and online shop. At this point, the FDA can't find its ... with both hands, a mirror, and a map.

My guess has always told me the FDA never intended for the PMTA process to get as far as it has and reach this point. It got away from the FDA. IMO, one of the reasons why the FDA did not start the process in 2016 because it is a herculean and damn impossible task to check everything being sold. The only reason the FDA is starting the process now is because a court forced their hand.

Let's set up a scenario by which an FDA agent walks into a shop and wants to see a PMTA filing for every product. When the filing cost upwards of $500,000, the paperwork isn't at the shop. It's at the lawyer's office. Does the agent then go to the lawyer's office and demand to see the paperwork? Remember this is a lawyer's office. They won't be seeing anything without a court order and that takes time.

I don't know how this is all going to play out. But I do believe the FDA will be inundated with PMTA filings up the wazoo. They cannot possibly check every line item. We might just see a wholesale "approved" from the FDA. Some regulation about labs and manufacturing, but that's it.

I could be wrong.

Pretty sure their going to go in to every shop they can, find the one bottle of 0-nic cotton candy flavor e-liquid that rolled under the counter 10 years ago, shut that shop down, and parade the aforementioned cotton candy around as evidence that vapers are trying to actively recruit the youth to a satanic cabal... But I could be optimistic about that...

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

I'm just waiting for the first constitutionalist shop owner to be confronted.
Just sayin'.



I'm betting the FDA will be "hiring" these inspectors as 1099 self-contractors using a 3rd party, private company.

Expect disastrous outcomes.

 

[BNEAT]

Where do I apply??

I'm betting the FDA will be "hiring" these inspectors as 1099 self-contractors using a 3rd party, private company.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Where do I apply??

Supposedly the FDA is posting these "job" openings on Twitter. I cannot verify that since I am allergic to Twitter. But you can check there...if you aren't allergic, too.

This information is coming from some Youtube superstar who burps a lot on his videos and is super repetitive and annoying, so I take everything I hear from him with a grain of salt. But it could be true.

 

[BNEAT]

My Doctor revoked my Twitter license

 

[zoiDman]

Where do I apply??

Here ya go...

CTP Expands Hiring To Meet Regulatory Goals

I hear they have a Great Smoking Cessation Program that is included in the Benefits Package.

 

[BNEAT]

Here ya go...

CTP Expands Hiring To Meet Regulatory Goals

I hear they have a Great Smoking Cessation Program that is included in the Benefits Package.

Great use of our tax dollars

 

[BillW50]

It got away from the FDA. IMO, one of the reasons why the FDA did not start the process in 2016 because it is a herculean and damn impossible task to check everything being sold. The only reason the FDA is starting the process now is because a court forced their hand.

I've never known the government to care much for any court order. They often just ignore it. There is nobody going to enforce it unless it is political. Well now that I think of it, it kind of is, isn't it?

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Here ya go...

CTP Expands Hiring To Meet Regulatory Goals

I hear they have a Great Smoking Cessation Program that is included in the Benefits Package.

Maybe they give you coupons for Juul?

 

[zoiDman]

Maybe they give you coupons for Juul?

Nah... JUUL is on their list right Now.

I believe you receive a Lifetime Supply Chantix. As well as up to $2,500 reimbursement for Funeral Services if you happen to jump out of a 7th Story Window at 3 in the Mourning.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

https://www.fda.gov/media/105713/download
Consumer Safety Officer

Description of Duties

Receives advanced training, through classroom and on-the job instruction, to provide a thorough understanding of and exposure to Food and Drug Administration (FDA) laws and regulations, administrative policies, and manufacturing and retail process. Plans and coordinates the execution of investigations and inspections. Provides guidance regarding inspections to accomplish compliance, enforcement and regulatory objectives.Prepares written reports and submits the reports to the supervisor for review and evaluation. Prepares final reports, position papers and other written documentation that supports investigative findings and recommendations. Actively participates in the implementation of new laws and regulations that impact the mission of the Center.

Qualifications

• A full course of study at an accredited college or university leading to a bachelor’s or higher degree, including 30 semester hours in one or a combination of biological sciences, chemistry, pharmacy, physical sciences, food technology, nutrition, medical science, engineering, epidemiology, veterinary medical science, or related scientific fields that provide knowledge directly related to consumer safety officer work. The 30 semester hours can include up to 8 semester hours in statistics or course work that included the principles, theory or practical application of computers or computer programming OR a combination of education and experience that includes courses consisting of at least 30 semester hours in the fields of study described above, plus appropriate experience or additional education.A combination of education(coursework equivalent to a major)and experience may be considered.

• U.S. citizenship is required.

Education

An official transcript, unofficial transcript, or a list including courses, grades earned, completion dates, and quarter and semester hours earned may be required. If you are using education completed in foreign colleges or universities to meet the qualification requirements, you must show that the education credentials have been evaluated by a private organization that specializes in interpretation of foreign education programs and such education has been deemed equivalent to that gained in an accredited U.S. education program; or full credit has been given for the courses at a U.S. accredited college or university.For further information, click on:foreign education

Note: Please review each grade announcement for the specific qualifications and specialized experience.

Grade (Salary) Level

Federal General Schedule (GS) grade levels at which Consumer Safety Officers are commonly filled are: GS-09 through GS-13($54,972.00 to $123,234.00 / Per Year)

Geographic Location

Consumer Safety Officers are located at FDA Headquarters in Silver Spring, MD

I'm betting the FDA will be "hiring" these inspectors as 1099 self-contractors using a 3rd party, private company.

I was wrong

 

[MacTechVpr]

Hmmm, they're gonna need a whole heap'a taxes to justify those prices there Uncle. Makes ya wonder what the boss man makes.

Good luck.

 

[UncLeJunkLe]

Hmmm, they're gonna need a whole heap'a taxes to justify those prices there Uncle. Makes ya wonder what the boss man makes.

Good luck.

I've never made $54K in a year in my life. If I made that much money per year, I would literally be rich and able to afford to save for retirement. Where I'm living, very few people make even $40K/yr, let alone $123K.

I guess it pays to be a communist snitch government inspector.

 

[Territoo]

I'd take that job, and I'm qualified. I'd just walk into the vape shops with my Smok Mag 225w in hand, surrounded by clouds of vape. "You running a vape shop here?" "Selling any flavors to the kiddies?" "You're fine, have a nice day!"

 

[HigherStateD]

I'd take that job, and I'm qualified. I'd just walk into the vape shops with my Smok Mag 225w in hand, surrounded by clouds of vape. "You running a vape shop here?" "Selling any flavors to the kiddies?" "You're fine, have a nice day!"

Makes me want to go back and get those 9 credits I need for a BA... Almost seems worth it for that

 

[MacTechVpr]

You couldn't pay me enough to do that job…extorting vapers to get out of the way and join the rest of the smokers they intend to totally skewer.

At the end of the day, that's what we're paying taxes for.

We don't need that kind of government. Not in my name!

Good luck.

 

[BNEAT]

I'd do it just to F-up the system, that is if i didn't have something better to do...like have a life