Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

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I followed the links to send my local officials emails and such. I just got this response just now to my email:
ETA: I'm in North Carolina.
Dear Mrs. Crook:

Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts regarding H.R. 2058, the FDA Deeming Authority Clarification Act of 2015. I appreciate hearing from you.

As you know, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is expected to finalize regulations for electronic cigarettes in 2015. In a bizarre example of the Obama administration creating novel definitions to words with otherwise plain meaning, the FDA has decided to regulate electronic cigarettes as tobacco products even though electronic cigarettes do not contain tobacco. These regulations will apply to e-cigarettes released into the market after February 15, 2007. Since the majority of these products did not exist prior to this date, nearly all e-cigarette products will be affected by these new regulations coming out of FDA.

On April 28, 2015, Representative Tom Cole (R-OK) introduced H.R. 2058, which was referred to the House Energy and Commerce Committee before being referred to the Subcommittee on Health. If enacted, H.R. 2058 would prevent FDA from banning tobacco products that have been introduced to the market after 2007.

I understand your concerns with the Federal Drug Administration's regulation of electronic cigarettes and agree that e-cigarettes should not be subject to tobacco product regulations, since they are, in fact, products that contain exactly no tobacco.The out-of-control executive branch regulatory regime has hurt our economy, as evidenced by the unacceptable economic stagnation we have been experiencing for far too long. If H.R. 2058 comes before the Senate, I will support it.

Again, thank you for taking the time to contact me. It is important to hear from citizens on issues that affect the state and the nation. Please do not hesitate to get in touch with me again about other important issues.

Sincerely,


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Thom Tillis
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Wow, pulling no punches
 

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When faced with a problem, I miss being able to say, "I need to go have a cigarette and think about that." It was something people accepted. Tell them you need to go have a vape and they look at you like you're from Mars.
That was always my way out when dealing with an uncomfortable social situation.
But I still use vaping as an excuse for that same reason.

The only problem is, that no longer works when arguing with the wife.
She knows I don't HAVE to go outside now.

Luckily, the wife and I only argue about once per year.
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I followed the links to send my local officials emails and such. I just got this response just now to my email:
ETA: I'm in North Carolina.
Dear Mrs. Crook:

Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts regarding H.R. 2058, the FDA Deeming Authority Clarification Act of 2015. I appreciate hearing from you.

As you know, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is expected to finalize regulations for electronic cigarettes in 2015. In a bizarre example of the Obama administration creating novel definitions to words with otherwise plain meaning, the FDA has decided to regulate electronic cigarettes as tobacco products even though electronic cigarettes do not contain tobacco. These regulations will apply to e-cigarettes released into the market after February 15, 2007. Since the majority of these products did not exist prior to this date, nearly all e-cigarette products will be affected by these new regulations coming out of FDA.

On April 28, 2015, Representative Tom Cole (R-OK) introduced H.R. 2058, which was referred to the House Energy and Commerce Committee before being referred to the Subcommittee on Health. If enacted, H.R. 2058 would prevent FDA from banning tobacco products that have been introduced to the market after 2007.

I understand your concerns with the Federal Drug Administration's regulation of electronic cigarettes and agree that e-cigarettes should not be subject to tobacco product regulations, since they are, in fact, products that contain exactly no tobacco.The out-of-control executive branch regulatory regime has hurt our economy, as evidenced by the unacceptable economic stagnation we have been experiencing for far too long. If H.R. 2058 comes before the Senate, I will support it.

Again, thank you for taking the time to contact me. It is important to hear from citizens on issues that affect the state and the nation. Please do not hesitate to get in touch with me again about other important issues.

Sincerely,


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Thom Tillis
U.S. Senator

Thank You for being someone who is Willing to spend a Few Minutes and write a Letter/e-Mail to Effect Change.

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Thank You for being someone who is Willing to spend a Few Minutes and write a Letter/e-Mail to Effect Change.

:thumb:

Absolutely! I happened to see an article the day they released them and quickly headed over here to find out what I needed to do. And then forwarded that information to all my vaping friends who all did the same. I've gotten a few text already that they got the same email. :D
 

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Absolutely! I happened to see an article the day they released them and quickly headed over here to find out what I needed to do. And then forwarded that information to all my vaping friends who all did the same. I've gotten a few text already that they got the same email. :D

Right On bcrook223.

Hopefully you know some Like-Minded Friends, Family and or Co-Works who can Do the Same.

:)
 

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I followed the links to send my local officials emails and such. I just got this response just now to my email:
ETA: I'm in North Carolina.
Dear Mrs. Crook:

Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts regarding H.R. 2058, the FDA Deeming Authority Clarification Act of 2015. I appreciate hearing from you.

As you know, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) is expected to finalize regulations for electronic cigarettes in 2015. In a bizarre example of the Obama administration creating novel definitions to words with otherwise plain meaning, the FDA has decided to regulate electronic cigarettes as tobacco products even though electronic cigarettes do not contain tobacco. These regulations will apply to e-cigarettes released into the market after February 15, 2007. Since the majority of these products did not exist prior to this date, nearly all e-cigarette products will be affected by these new regulations coming out of FDA.

On April 28, 2015, Representative Tom Cole (R-OK) introduced H.R. 2058, which was referred to the House Energy and Commerce Committee before being referred to the Subcommittee on Health. If enacted, H.R. 2058 would prevent FDA from banning tobacco products that have been introduced to the market after 2007.

I understand your concerns with the Federal Drug Administration's regulation of electronic cigarettes and agree that e-cigarettes should not be subject to tobacco product regulations, since they are, in fact, products that contain exactly no tobacco.The out-of-control executive branch regulatory regime has hurt our economy, as evidenced by the unacceptable economic stagnation we have been experiencing for far too long. If H.R. 2058 comes before the Senate, I will support it.

Again, thank you for taking the time to contact me. It is important to hear from citizens on issues that affect the state and the nation. Please do not hesitate to get in touch with me again about other important issues.

Sincerely,


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Thom Tillis
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He's my senator too and will be hearing from me as well. Glad to see he's on board. Don't forget to write Senator Burr as well.
 

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Yeah that one looks better made than the one I picked up who knows where who knows when LOL.

Awesome. The thing I have is the precursor to the r-tank by smok; meaning smok copied a smaller vendor's idea and made it polished product. You might have something like that as well.
 
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Gotta like this-->


...I understand your concerns with the Federal Drug Administration's regulation of electronic cigarettes and agree that e-cigarettes should not be subject to tobacco product regulations, since they are, in fact, products that contain exactly no tobacco...

Sincerely,


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Thom Tillis
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http://nypost.com/2016/05/13/were-running-a-f-ing-casino-politician-tells-all-in-manifesto/

Is it possible things are starting to come together, or come completely apart?

a few quotes:
Voters are described as gullible, know-nothing jerks, while the only people who count are the big donors who pour billions of dollars into lobbying.

“Voters are incredibly ignorant. It’s far easier than you think to manipulate a nation of naive, self-absorbed sheep who crave instant gratification . . .” vents Congressman X.

He says money “corrupts” and House members are “puppets” to lobbyists who bankroll their campaigns.

‘America’s on an irreversible decline and no one in Washington seems to care . . . God help us.’

- Congressman X
“Business organizations and unions fork over more than $3 billion a year to those who lobby the federal government. Does that tell you something? We’re operating a f–king casino,” he says.
I'd say that sums it up pretty well.

I am having a discussion with my wife regarding IQ requirements for voting.
It's a heated topic here in this house right now.

She is currently researching a quote from (we think it was) Plato.
But basically, those most qualified to rule do NOT want any part of being a ruler.

Yeah, that's about the size and shape of it.
 

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Just a thought ...

What if the FDA discovers that vapor is not that much worse than breathing ordinary city air? That's what Dr Farsolino found. Will they shut up about it?

Nah, ecigs are on a track to put cigarette companies out of business. The Master Settlement Agreement to the states must be paid out annually until 2025. Big Tobacco must continue, and it's obviously being protected by the FDA.

Tobacco smoke kills. Why is it still legal?

Because Congress said so. Unfortunately sad, but true.
 
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