Not giving up, preparing for the long fight, and hoping that the preparations turn out to be unnecessary.
Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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No. I'm doing whatever I have to do to ensure that I do not EVER smoke again. At the same time, I'm writing letter after letter, visiting vape shops, approaching strangers who are vaping, and posting on FB (which is anathema, to me). I strongly suspect I'm not in the minority, here. Please, let's try not to divide the vaping community.
I'm also very tired and heartsick. If this comes across as an attack, please forgive me. I don't mean it to be.
Seeing reality and making plans about it, isn't 'giving up', it's using your rational faculty. We'll be vaping what we want, while others will either quit, return to smoking or vaping Tobacco companies ecigs IF they are approved by the FDA, which could be a fairy tale of wishing and hoping and living in an unreality in their minds. Which, btw, isn't that different for some, than the place they live now.
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I would still do it to get it out there
I am not giving up, but I'm also stocked up so that my wife and I can keep off cigarettes period. No reason we should sacrifice this healthy habit to make a point.
I am one that saw the writing on the wall and have stocked up over the years but I refuse to give up fighting for those that don't even know that they need someone fighting for them.
Fight for the best but it would be foolish of me to not prepare for the worst. Preparing is not giving up!!!!!!!
I didn't stockpile intentionally (hoarding, anyone?) but I will now. Because even though I support these ideas of PR, lawsuits, donations, bills...I am skeptical that the FDA will ever back down or reverse their position. The general public buys that Public Health is there for them and protects them, we are naive in this country, I believe.
I think most vendors will go the route that Flavourart predicted as the only way around this without spending millions of dollars that most don't have.
I think most vendors will go the route that Flavourart predicted as the only way around this without spending millions of dollars that most don't have.
So... 4 out of the last 6 appropriation bills were passed - although late -* and one in an election year. That's fairly promising....
I have to admit that I'm (finally) learning DIY, and starting to stockpile as much as money, and the remaining time will allow.
Hope for the best
Plan for the worst
I believe that all of us talking HERE in THIS thread would donate what they could.
I know I would.
If I was retired, I might even take up the mantle of trying to get the ball rolling.
Unfortunately, that looks like it's still about a year away.
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Yeah. We need to get those folks on our side... or not...But they have Jenny McCarthy (and her disgraced doctor)...
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The downsizing of vendors has begun. I received an email from a supplier that they are dropping the higher levels of nic and higher ratios of pg.
Actually, this works out very well for me.
The day will soon come when people will forget that PG was once used in vaping.
So I should have clear sailing when I need to go buy some.
My 75/25 PG/VG liquids will be easy and cheap to make.
Yay me!!
I guess with the newer devices heating the e-liquid more efficiently most folks don't/won't need the higher nic to get the same thing we got with the devices available when we first started. it is possible that the higher nic just isn't moving out the door for them so are phasing it out because of it. I started with a tiny cig-a-like and 24mg. As my devices got more efficient I started lowering my nic. Down to 12 now and have no plans on going any lower. I tried 6 but wasn't happy with it.
Too funny, DC.
They stated to the effect of eliminating the less popular and more to come due to the deeming regs.
They stated to the effect of eliminating the less popular and more to come due to the deeming regs.
Exactly the reason I'm stocking up on mods, tanks, and the various vaping supplies I'll need to continue vaping. When juice is no longer available to my liking I'll DIY. When nic is outlawed i'll vape 0mg. I've been at 3mg and 6mg levels for quite a while in preparation. I may have to add some pepper flavor to my juice to simulate the nic bite, but that's OK.
Yet, cigarettes are still legal if you want to chance a horrible death. Don't you wonder why a killer product isn't outlawed and a safer alternative is being slowly eradicated? There's a tax money angle in their somewhere. We all know why BT is being given a pass.
You must have gotten the same email, that is the reasoning.
I am down to 1.5 nic and would manage with zero, if need be.
Did they give the deeming regs as the reason for cutting back?
Vendors have been culling stock and dropping the higher nic levels
for some time as the lower nic juice sells better.
Mike
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