Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[classwife]

It's like an F5 Tornado coming and no one hears the sirens

 

[LoriP1702]

It's like an F5 Tornado coming and no one hears the sirens

It IS! You're EXACTLY right!!

...just MIND BENDING that they are soooooooo clueless.

 

[Qew]

I've been clicking through miles of internet today, it's muddy out there and I now need to wash the hate off my vape! It was not all nasty though, I came across this article written by a chiropractor that urges support of Cole-Bishop. YAY! But What About the Children? Teen Vaping and E-cigarettes - Advanced Spinal Care Center

There are only a few comments to his article, but someone posted one with a bunch of links, one of them to a list of medical professionals all over the world that support vaping, (needs to be MUCH longer!) Medical Organizations supporting Vaping and Electronic cigarettes and a couple of them lead to rolygate's site. Nice to see some friendly faces out there!

 

[zoiDman]

Wow... just wow. What is up with all these B&M stores with their heads in the sand?!? Quite worrisome!

I know that some B&M's are Oblivious. But I also know that some B&M's are Purposely not saying anything to their Customers for Fear that they will Freak Out. And think about doing DIY instead of buying retail e-Liquids.

"A bad enough situation
Is sure enough getting worse
Everybody's crying Justice!
Just as soon as there's Business First"

Bonnie Raitt, "Everybody's Cry'n Mercy"

 

[crxess]

I spoke by phone with one from northern IL last week, they have two stores...they're going to be fine, the owner "knows people".

Califf and Zeller?

IJJits

 

[LoriP1702]

Califf and Zeller?

IJJits

Yeah, LOL's.

I couldn't even respond to him, I just said, well....okay...good luck to you.
I asked if they had joined CASAA, if they were familiar with ECF....Oh yeah, they do all that.

 

[Katya]

"Interesting" perhaps. But "fun"?

Rossum, I said fun because I still believe, deep in my heart, that we will prevail, that the FDA will be put in its place, somehow. Perhaps the Cole-Bishop will pass, or Sen. Johnson will start issuing subpoenas (I'm fully expecting to see Zeller and Califf doing a perp walk, preferably in handcuffs and leg irons), or a sensible judge somewhere will laugh them out of court and slap a big injunction on their shenanigans.

I need to have hope to keep fighting. It ain't over til it's over. And this is not over--not by a long shot!

 

[sonicdsl]

It's like an F5 Tornado coming and no one hears the sirens

Meh - you're blowing it out of proportion! It's a windstorm, and will pass right by... I know people!

I've been clicking through miles of internet today, it's muddy out there and I now need to wash the hate off my vape! It was not all nasty though, I came across this article written by a chiropractor that urges support of Cole-Bishop. YAY! But What About the Children? Teen Vaping and E-cigarettes - Advanced Spinal Care Center

There are only a few comments to his article, but someone posted one with a bunch of links, one of them to a list of medical professionals all over the world that support vaping, (needs to be MUCH longer!) Medical Organizations supporting Vaping and Electronic cigarettes and a couple of them lead to rolygate's site. Nice to see some friendly faces out there!

The author is a member here! @mpols

 

[classwife]

Rossum, I said fun because I still believe, deep in my heart, that we will prevail, that the FDA will be put in its place, somehow. Perhaps the Cole-Bishop will pass, or Sen. Johnson will start issuing subpoenas (I'm fully expecting to see Zeller and Califf doing a perp walk, preferably in handcuffs and leg irons), or a sensible judge somewhere will laugh them out of court and slap a big injunction on their shenanigans.

I need to have hope to keep fighting. It ain't over til it's over. And this is not over--not by a long shot!

I am so praying for this

All of this is just so wrong

 

[The Ocelot]

In other news...

Giggles are always good! A Trump Speech At Half Speed Makes Him Sound Really Drunk

After reading that article and watching the video, I tried it with other videos. Amazingly, it didn't make Rip Trippers funny. It made him sound almost normal. On the other hand, Phil Busardo...oh my!

Click on settings at the bottom right. Set the speed to 0.5. If it started playing before you changed the speed, go back to the beginning. "Can I taste your juice?" is priceless.



We now return to the regular thread.

 

[Katya]

The author is a member here! @mpols

And on the subject of medical professionals, this poll (and this thread) needs more love. Cast your vote, if you can.

NEJM poll on e-cigs for smoking cessation, please vote

 

[The Ocelot]

Rossum, I said fun because I still believe, deep in my heart, that we will prevail, that the FDA will be put in its place, somehow. Perhaps the Cole-Bishop will pass, or Sen. Johnson will start issuing subpoenas (I'm fully expecting to see Zeller and Califf doing a perp walk, preferably in handcuffs and leg irons), or a sensible judge somewhere will laugh them out of court and slap a big injunction on their shenanigans.

I need to have hope to keep fighting. It ain't over til it's over. And this is not over--not by a long shot!

 

[Vandal]

The author is a member here! @mpols

Yes, and he didn't get much support from us:

I need some research help for an article on e-cigarettes and children

 

[crxess]

FDA is UL in a Clown Suit selling to the highest bidder.

http://ecowatch.com/2016/02/25/fda-big-pharma-califf/

 

[HazyShades]

It's like an F5 Tornado coming and no one hears the sirens

That's 'cause the storm troopers keep muffling the sirens' sound
with their marching songs and loud propaganda.

History repeats ya know.
Regards,
Hazy

 

[The Ocelot]

FDA is UL in a Clown Suit selling to the highest bidder.

http://ecowatch.com/2016/02/25/fda-big-pharma-califf/:glare:

The glare broke your link.

FDA Officially Belongs to Big Pharma With Senate Confirmation of Dr. Robert Califf

 

[crxess]

 

[Woofer]

On the other hand, Phil Busardo...oh my!

I usually listen to him at 1.5 or 2x. .5 is bahahah, thanks!

 

[mpols]

There are only a few comments to his article, but someone posted one with a bunch of links, one of them to a list of medical professionals all over the world that support vaping, (needs to be MUCH longer!) Medical Organizations supporting Vaping and Electronic cigarettes and a couple of them lead to rolygate's site. Nice to see some friendly faces out there!

The site (MOVE) is inactive. I tried 2x to join in the beginning of May and I've gotten no response. I just sent another email.

 

[The Ocelot]

Do the FDA deeming regulations supersede the requirements of the Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau?

https://www.ttb.gov/tobacco/manufacturer_products.shtml