Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

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So today I noticed the Stainless Steel wire I've been buying for jewelry making for years is marked as 316L stainless steel. If I decide to use it to make a coil does that make all of my jewelry tobacco products? :lol::lol::lol:

No, but it does mean you can have some 316L coil as earrings and whip one off if you need to build a quick coil while out and about. Just don't leave the house without some cotton, too.
 

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Yeah... This ENTIRE thing just Blows.

I mean, we have the FDA going Ape Snit saying anything that has a Vowel in it's name is a Tobacco Product. And doesn't Recognize the Authority of the Congress. Got States and the Feds scurrying around like Piranhas to Tax e-liquids into Oblivion. And Talk of a 21+ National Age Limit in the Next Presidency.

How did we get Here?

They Told me to Quit Smoking. I did. What Now do they Want?

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    Bob Chill

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    I think by the time Aug 8th rolls around, I'm Not going to have any more Money.

    Just Lots and Lots of Assets.

    You and me both. Lol. It's a nothing goes to waste situation though. Even if the regs never go into effect I will use everything I have. And if i don't i could hardly care either way. It will be nice not to need to buy a damn thing except maybe flavor concentrates for many years.
     

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    You and me both. Lol. It's a nothing goes to waste situation though. Even if the regs never go into effect I will use everything I have. And if i don't i could hardly care either way. It will be nice not to need to buy a damn thing except maybe flavor concentrates for many years.

    I'm actually Good-to-Go Now.

    Because I wanted to be Ready before June 9th, 2016.
     

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    You and me both. Lol. It's a nothing goes to waste situation though. Even if the regs never go into effect I will use everything I have. And if i don't i could hardly care either way. It will be nice not to need to buy a damn thing except maybe flavor concentrates for many years.
    Yep, being in that position lets me sleep soundly at night, despite being livid about the whole thing during the day.
     

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    Don't like my post.
    Don't you dare.

    This industry deserves to die.
    Let it drown in its own naive self-righteousness.

    I'm logging off.

    I still have a little Fight left.............For the People, not the Numb Nut Shop owners

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    zoiDman

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    What's special about that date?

    Nothing if you are Over 21 and want to buy Tobacco Products or e-Cigarettes in California.

    I just didn't want there to be Any Snags with Age Verification with Online purchases. Because I'm not going to submit a Photo ID if asked to do so.
     

    Myrany

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    Nothing if you are Over 21 and want to buy Tobacco Products or e-Cigarettes in California.

    I just didn't want there to be Any Snags with Age Verification with Online purchases. Because I'm not going to submit a Photo ID if asked to do so.
    I already ran into that snag recently. A vendors system would not verify me so we put the order in my hubbys name and it went right through even though the credit card was the same account LOL.
     

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    They already have...they stopped voting, and you see where that got us.

    Stopping the vote is only part of it. From my view I do not vote because it is patently clear the whole system is a fraud. Granted I do appreciate some of the social programs, they can be helpful. I do not feel out of line accessing them somewhat. I have done a good share toward ROI. Members of my family & wife's family have too.

    That aside, I would rather not need to rely on social programs. Kind of tells you something is wrong that our so great nation needs to bail anyone out. We did have prosperity once. It was right after the Revolutionary War we fought to gain Independence. And no, I'm not suggesting we revisit such conditions. I'm only being objective and seeing history for what it is, not what the victors wrote it to be.
     

    Katya

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    What's special about that date?

    Nobody knows for sure, but we all dread it. ;)

    Nothing if you are Over 21 and want to buy Tobacco Products or e-Cigarettes in California.

    I just didn't want there to be Any Snags with Age Verification with Online purchases. Because I'm not going to submit a Photo ID if asked to do so.

    Right. And possibly an increase in shipping costs.

    I already ran into that snag recently. A vendors system would not verify me so we put the order in my hubbys name and it went right through even though the credit card was the same account LOL.

    So did I. A vendor from VA refused to ship to CA.

    Fasten your seat belts, folks! This is going to be fun!

    OTOH, the good people from my local B&M seem to think that everything will be alright. They have a SFATA flyer on the counter (no CASAA), and just keep on puffing happily. :D
     

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    ....aaaaaaaannnnnnndddddd.....
    you can thank my local vape shops for all of this.

    I visited another one today (I really gotta stop shopping B&M. Somebody please help me.), and I overheard the owner telling a guy with an iTaste cooking store-bought coils that "none of this is actually going to happen, we got it all figured out".
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    OTOH, the good people from my local B&M seem to think that everything will be alright. They have a SFATA flyer on the counter (no CASAA), and just keep on puffing happily. :D
    Wow... just wow. What is up with all these B&M stores with their heads in the sand?!? Quite worrisome!
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    LoriP1702

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    Wow... just wow. What is up with all these B&M stores with their heads in the sand?!? Quite worrisome!
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    I spoke by phone with one from northern IL last week, they have two stores...they're going to be fine, the owner "knows people".

    :facepalm:
     

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