Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[nicnik]

Actually, that sounds about right to me.

A big complaint folks make when transitioning from the real thing is their cravings aren't curbed by 12 and 18mg doses. They expect their lungs and mouth tissue to absorb the vapor molecules as fast as tar laced smokes. That ain't gonna' happen.

I tell everyone to start at 24 or even 36mg nic (if they can find it)

For cig-a-likes, ok, but not if they're starting out with a 50 watt setup like some do, nowadays.

 

[nicnik]

Personally I would not buy a new eliquid without trying it first anymore, wasted way too much money buying eliquid that sounded fantastic only to be completely gacked out by it once I tried it, but, I have tried flavors that I did not think I would like but ended up loving. So I think it will hurt shops not to be able to let people try it first.

It will hurt shops, hurt vapers, and hurt public health.

 

[YoursTruli]

Wow! One of the worst TV pieces on vaping I've seen. Maybe even THE worst.

Dr. JJ, the pediatrition, is malpracticing on a mass level, and the couch potato media heads are attempting to dumb down all the way to the bottom to gain an edge on their dumb competition.

only 7 comments so far on this and it needs 100's ...1000s more. Things like this need to be challenged with the facts.

 

[nicnik]

only 7 comments so far on this and it needs 100's ...1000s more. Things like this need to be challenged with the facts.

Only 81 views, so far. Not a bad response rate, with all seven heavily criticising it. If it gets many more views, I think it'll get plenty of criticism. (I don't have a youtube account and don't want one.)

 

[Steamix]

Would be great. He's a toxocologist, and ANTZ "science" is an all-out assault on toxicology.

Lectures pharmacology and toxicology at Graz univesity, Austria.

I daresay that he's got the scientific credentials a 'Dr' Glantz would love to have.

Just read the blog about pseudscience where Prof Mayer specifically adresses the letters of Mr Glantz to the FDA.
Judging from the scathing comments, Stanton Glantz managed to earn himself a good rank on the [Mod.] hitlist of a very knowledgeable man

 

[KODIAK (TM)]

only 7 comments so far on this and it needs 100's ...1000s more. Things like this need to be challenged with the facts.

Hear hear! This hit piece is almost like an SNL skit. Geezus H. Krist. And people wonder why I drink...

 

[YoursTruli]

Only 81 views, so far. Not a bad response rate, with all seven heavily criticising it. If it gets many more views, I think it'll get plenty of criticism. (I don't have a youtube account and don't want one.)

@HomeandFamilyTV is on twitter with this story, I left a comment there

 

[Woofer]

@HomeandFamilyTV is on twitter with this story, I left a comment there

Left one on youtube, man these peeps are sacrey... in a sad pathetic way

 

[nicnik]

@HomeandFamilyTV is on twitter with this story, I left a comment there

No twitter account, for me. But here's Dr. JJ:

JJ Levenstein (@CallingDoctorJJ) | Twitter

 

[Katya]

Personally I would not buy a new eliquid without trying it first anymore, wasted way too much money buying eliquid that sounded fantastic only to be completely gacked out by it once I tried it, but, I have tried flavors that I did not think I would like but ended up loving. So I think it will hurt shops not to be able to let people try it first.

They could charge a penny or nickle per "sample" to avoid the "free" sample ban. That's not difficult.

 

[Katya]

ohmagosh...what part of dual use does he NOT understand ?
It means people are smoking less cigarettes !

Just say no, Classy. Just say no.

 

[Steamix]

Protect your children alright.
Best start would be NOT to bring them anywhere near that Dr JJ Levenstein.

 

[bigdancehawk]

I know, right?

Since EVERYTHING is now a tobacco product by some degree of association...
It seems reasonable to assume that God is actually a tobacco plant...

And the Big Bang started when a tobacco leaf fell off God and exploded.


EDIT: This theory also kind of helps explain multiple universes...
EDIT: Because yeah, multiple leaves!!
EDIT:

I'm compelled to disagree with this blasphemy. The FDA knows it is God and believes its authority extends to other universes.

 

[Katya]

I've heard the Vuse is high in nic too.

Njoy disposables are also very high nic. JUUL is ~50 mg/ml and they add some kind of acid to their juice for even faster absorption.

More from @Kurt, if you're interested:

Another article on the Juul

 

[bigdancehawk]

and as for the people that only use e-cigarettes for places that they can't smoke a cigarette...

SO WHAT !!! WHO CARES !!!

What MATTERS are the people that WANT to NOT smoke cigarettes...damn I am so angry at the sheer stupidity.

Their "logic" may go something like this:
If people can vape where they can't smoke, then all the demonizing and marginalizing of smokers they've worked so hard to achieve isn't going to be as effective in shaming smokers to quit.

 

[drum747]

I suggest everyone get an account on YouTube and Twitter at a minimum so when stuff like the previous propaganda that was posted from "Home and Family" TV appears , we can all go make our voices heard. I personally left comments on both. sadly, Its only going to get worse in my opinion. That was ridiculous! Thanks for your comment on twitter Yourstruli! you've been busy I retweeted to 1309 people, nowhere near your 4.3 k followers! Nice!

 

[rico942]

Their "logic" may go something like this:
If people can vape where they can't smoke, then all the demonizing and marginalizing of smokers they've worked so hard to achieve isn't going to be as effective in shaming smokers to quit.

Right on target ...

And shaming was never effective anyway, as many here know ...

There were times in my 46 year smoking ordeal when I contemplated quitting. But then some holier-than-thou jerk would give me grief about smoking, I would get stubborn, and smoke even more ...

Anti-smoking campaigns probably do more to promote tobacco use than any of the lost advertising. People can be very contrary when their behavior is "de-normalized" ...

It took the disruptive technology of vaping to break that vicious circle for me ...

 

[Pamawoman]

Wow! One of the worst TV pieces on vaping I've seen. Maybe even THE worst.

Dr. JJ, the pediatrition, is malpracticing on a mass level, and the couch potato media heads are attempting to dumb down all the way to the bottom to gain an edge on their dumb competition.

My blood pressure was so high. I thought I was going to have a stroke. I don't think she missed any of the lies and propaganda that is out there.

 

[Katya]

I suggest everyone get an account on YouTube and Twitter at a minimum so when stuff like the previous propaganda that was posted from "Home and Family" TV appears , we can all go make our voices heard.

I also suggest that people don't watch those atrocities. I refuse to watch and give them another view. But that's just me.

 

[YoursTruli]

I also suggest that people don't watch those atrocities. I refuse to watch and give them another view. But that's just me.

I am torn on that point too, but, if we are unaware or ignore the lies that are out there we lose the chance to counter them with the truth.