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I am torn on that point too, but, if we are unaware or ignore the lies that are out there we lose the chance to counter them with the truth.

I know. But if you already know what it is, you can dislike and/or leave a comment without watching this crap. Win-win.
 

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Okay, so I sent the email to Satan GlANTZ with the requested link...
TOBACCOCONTROL : Tobacco Control

Here is his reply...


And yes, I explained very well the concept of dual use leading to eventual quitting.
I'm sure he was quite interested in what I had to say.
[/SARCASM]

By the way, I have no desire to carry on any kind of conversation with him.
I'd rather see him take it up with Clive Bates.
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I will not be replying, and I will continue to refer to him as Satan GlANTZ.
Just in case he's reading this, which I hope he is.

Prime GOD Complex
I will always use the single perceived negative you inadvertently include in an argument to beat you into submission.

Ummm, Glantz - No chance! :glare:

The Dipstick admits Less is safer - until it is Dual Use- WTH Less is less. and eventually, by design MUCH less:facepalm:
Of course Taxation will take care of that loop hole! :sneaky:

Money before Life!!!:grr:
 

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I also suggest that people don't watch those atrocities. I refuse to watch and give them another view. But that's just me.

It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.
-Sun Tzu - 'The Art of War'
 
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Right on target ...

And shaming was never effective anyway, as many here know ...

There were times in my 46 year smoking ordeal when I contemplated quitting. But then some holier-than-thou jerk would give me grief about smoking, I would get stubborn, and smoke even more ...

Anti-smoking campaigns probably do more to promote tobacco use than any of the lost advertising. People can be very contrary when their behavior is "de-normalized" ...

It took the disruptive technology of vaping to break that vicious circle for me ...
As I'm sure you know, there is a certain percentage of people who take immense pleasure in making rules for others, scolding them and exercising power over them. Gather enough of these people together, give them something or someone to dislike (Jews, Tutsis, Hutus, smokers... it doesn't matter), and they will soon encourage and reinforce one another to the point where all sense of truthfulness, humility and ethical behavior goes out the window. This sort of thing has been repeated throughout history.

Our Founding Fathers believe that a strong and free press was the cornerstone of liberty. Unfortunately, that cornerstone has developed some serious cracks. We see more and more bureaucratic propaganda and slanted press releases reported uncritically as fact, and Facebook and Twitter seem to be primary sources of "news" for too many people.
 

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Know thy enemy... -Sun Tzu (paraphrased)

I know. It's a tough one. But I decided to just ignore those trolls. Every time you watch them or link them you give their lies more life. I decided to ignore them (on YouTube). But it's my decision and mine only. Silence can be just as deadly as a critical comment. If not deadlier. :)
 

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Almost as if it was personal for him.

As is the way of the Anti and an awful lot of Cold Turkey quitters.:glare:

I suppose it similar in nature, to Alcohol addition or something to the Anti-Addiction crowd, not realizing the Science proven differences in effect.

Lays Potato Chips :ohmy:
 

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I know. It's a tough one. But I decided to just ignore those trolls. Every time you watch them or link them you give their lies more life. I decided to ignore them (on YouTube). But it's my decision and mine only. Silence can be just as deadly as a critical comment. If not deadlier. :)
Yes. I was referring only to not watching or reading the negative commentary. Not doing so would make us ignorant of the BS we need combat and of the actions our antagonists plan.

But to reply to their BS other than to educate the curious uninvolved
(Ha! Beat the spellchecker again)
is indeed a waste of time and only feeds the federal trolls.
Those people have already made up their minds to be our enemies.

Regards,
Hazy

BTW, I corrected the above post
to the actual quote rather than a paraphrase
 

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only 7 comments so far on this and it needs 100's ...1000s more. Things like this need to be challenged with the facts.

Add me to the list, After I Calmed down enough to type, I typed.....and typed......then Deleted most of my Anger and slammed the link with links to Anti-:censored:hole counter argument.:D

Excuse me...........think I'm going to be sick. :confused:
 

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You Don't recall properly.

Yes there is a 50 mile rule, but he can basically drive anytime, anywhere he wants with no Paid registration as long as he is "on farm business".

Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles
Bruce in Ocala, Fl

Well see if I agree with you again. Damn shame a person cannot agree with another without one thinking the other is disagreeing.
 

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So, he doesn't recognize the harm reduction in lowering the number of cigarettes smoked. He also doesn't recognize that "dual use" is often a step from smoker to vaper, a step that can take in indeterminate amount of time(much like the new instructions on NRT).

Are you surprised?

It took me Two Years of dual use to make the switch.

Nobody's going to tell me it doesn't work.

Just more ANTZ BS..
 

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Good news! I got a response from my senator! She will keep my views in mind as the Senate considers legislation on this or similar issues. WOOT!


"Dear Friend:

Thank you for taking the time to write and share your views with me. Your comments will help me continue to represent you and other Californians to the best of my ability. Be assured that I will keep your views in mind as the Senate considers legislation on this or similar issues.

If you would like additional information about my work in the U.S. Senate, I invite you to visit my website, www.boxer.senate.gov. From this site, you can send a message to me about current events or pending legislation, access my statements and press releases, request copies of legislation and government reports, and receive detailed information about the many services that I am privileged to provide for my constituents. You may also wish to visit www.congress.gov to track current and past federal legislation.

Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. I appreciate hearing from you."

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Congratulations, Katya! This is wonderful news!

And she's my friend now! With friends like BB...
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Congratulations, Katya! This is wonderful news!

You do realize that my post was (or was meant to be) bitterly sarcastic, don't you?

Ms. Boxer is an ANTZ of the worst kind and whoever wrote that response in her behalf didn't even bother to mention what I was writing about...
 
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You do realize that my post was (or was meant to be) bitterly sarcastic, don't you?

Ms. Boxer is the ANTZ of the worst kind and whoever wrote that response in her behalf didn't even bother to mention what I was writing about...
Yes! And I'm am absolutely thrilled that she has friended you!
 

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Good news! I got a response from my senator! She will keep my views in mind as the Senate considers legislation on this or similar issues. WOOT!


"Dear Friend:

Thank you for taking the time to write and share your views with me. Your comments will help me continue to represent you and other Californians to the best of my ability. Be assured that I will keep your views in mind as the Senate considers legislation on this or similar issues.

If you would like additional information about my work in the U.S. Senate, I invite you to visit my website, www.boxer.senate.gov. From this site, you can send a message to me about current events or pending legislation, access my statements and press releases, request copies of legislation and government reports, and receive detailed information about the many services that I am privileged to provide for my constituents. You may also wish to visit www.congress.gov to track current and past federal legislation.

Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. I appreciate hearing from you."

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Man... That is Kinda a Canned Response of the Canned Responses. And I Love how it can be Used for either someone who is For or Against a given Topic.
 

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