Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!

[rocketman29]

From Dr. Farsalinos: New study: 6.1 million Europeans have quit smoking with the use of electronic cigarettes

New study: 6.1 million Europeans have quit smoking with the use of electronic cigarettes

 

[Pamawoman]

So, I am a Big Brother super fan and I popped into a chat room on the live feeds and the first thing I see is someone saying to be careful with that vaping thing. I got pneumonia from it. OMG!!!! What the heck is going on in this world. The FDA propaganda machine is killing us! Don't we have any zillionaires out there somewhere to fight the lies? It is just so frustrating. I of course went on a huge my story, RCP and be informed before you spout off. And some little twit comes back with safer isn't SAFE!!! I had to leave. I can't be having a stroke when I am all stocked up for the long haul. Thank you for letting me vent. It is seemingly impossible to fight the lies when they are EVERYWHERE!

 

[Bronze]

So, I am a Big Brother super fan and I popped into a chat room on the live feeds and the first thing I see is someone saying to be careful with that vaping thing. I got pneumonia from it. OMG!!!! What the heck is going on in this world. The FDA propaganda machine is killing us! Don't we have any zillionaires out there somewhere to fight the lies? It is just so frustrating. I of course went on a huge my story, RCP and be informed before you spout off. And some little twit comes back with safer isn't SAFE!!! I had to leave. I can't be having a stroke when I am all stocked up for the long haul. Thank you for letting me vent. It is seemingly impossible to fight the lies when they are EVERYWHERE!

Remember, the average person has about a sixth grade level of intelligence. Good thing for them there are wagons so we can pull them through life.

 

[GaryInTexas]

So, I am a Big Brother super fan and I popped into a chat room on the live feeds and the first thing I see is someone saying to be careful with that vaping thing. I got pneumonia from it. OMG!!!! What the heck is going on in this world. The FDA propaganda machine is killing us! Don't we have any zillionaires out there somewhere to fight the lies? It is just so frustrating. I of course went on a huge my story, RCP and be informed before you spout off. And some little twit comes back with safer isn't SAFE!!! I had to leave. I can't be having a stroke when I am all stocked up for the long haul. Thank you for letting me vent. It is seemingly impossible to fight the lies when they are EVERYWHERE!

Apparently there is no IQ test required to enter the internet unfortunately.

 

[VNeil]

[QUOTE="Pamawoman, post: 18070483, member: 97334" And some little twit comes back with safer isn't SAFE!!! [/QUOTE]
Actually, if you say something here like "there is no known harm", the response you will get here, in your own choir, among the supposedly truly devout, is about the same. There are only 3 or 4 people here that believe and are willing to state they believe vaping is harmless.

 

[snork]

Actually, if you say something here like "there is no known harm", the response you will get here, in your own choir, among the supposedly truly devout, is about the same. There are only 3 or 4 people here that believe and are willing to state they believe vaping is harmless.

Can I hear an AMEN people?

 

[Jingles]

Putting your seat belt on is safer than not doing so, but you can still get killed in a car accident even with your seat belt on!

 

[Lessifer]

Can I hear an AMEN people?

Amen!

 

[Kent C]

Some, more than 3 or 4, consider it beneficial to one's health... and there are some studies that come to the same conclusion.

But... Amen :- )

 

[crxess]

[QUOTE="Pamawoman, post: 18070483, member: 97334" And some little twit comes back with safer isn't SAFE!!!

Actually, if you say something here like "there is no known harm", the response you will get here, in your own choir, among the supposedly truly devout, is about the same. There are only 3 or 4 people here that believe and are willing to state they believe vaping is harmless.[/QUOTE]

One must understand many of us Truly believe Air is somewhat harmful
In that respect, I believe Vaping is likely no more and possibly less harmful.

 

[mattiem]

Amen!

Some, more than 3 or 4, consider it beneficial to one's health... and there are some studies that come to the same conclusion.

But... Amen :- )

Ditto and ditto

 

[Pamawoman]

Amen. I think it is safer then driving downtown with your windows open.

 

[VNeil]

Amen. I think it is safer then driving downtown with your windows open.

But is it safe?

 

[Kent C]

Amen. I think it is safer then driving downtown with your windows open.

Some studies agree:

Comparison of select analytes in aerosol from e-cigarettes with smoke from conventional cigarettes and with ambient air

Study Confirms That E-Cigarettes Generate Virtually No Toxins

 

[Pamawoman]

But is it safe?

I truly think it is. And I REALLY hope I am right.

 

[Vandal]

But is it safe?

Ha ha. But seriously, what could ever be called safe? Name anything, and I'm sure we could all come up with its potential for danger. That's what so stupid about all this (the regulations, the attitude the haters have towards vaping, etc).

IMO, the only truly safe thing is death. Absolutely no further harm can befall you.

 

[oplholik]

Safe? I dunno, but safer, yes.

 

[Yiana]

Look for them to start taxing the heck out of the cheap "pipe" tobacco that many now make cigarettes with.
They did that once and the tobacco companies just renamed it pipe tobacco. Works for a while.
They will do the same with liquid nicotine concentrate.

That's what I was doing before I quit smoking and saved a crap load of money. It figures that they want to ruin that too.

Good ole Illinois. So glad I moved away from there.

I got the hell outta there over a year ago. Moved to a reasonable state Tennessee and never looked back. Tennessee is really vape and smoke friendly. Taxes on tobacco are cheap as hell compared to illinois. Also, we can buy tobacco products online with no problem whatsoever. It probably helps that our state isn't broke as hell.

 

[Yiana]

I think a little of that has to do with the fact that the govt. there covers health care, so they have a vested interest in helping people get/stay healthy...hence, actually having unbiased studies so they can base decisions on scientific findings.
Here, sick people just feed the herd.

That's what I think too about the difference between the states and the UK. Vaping is safer and they know they'll save money if people are healthy. Here we have carrion birds that just cannot wait for the bodies to get cold before they want to feast on them. The "health" care system here is a gdamn racket.

 

[VNeil]

Ha ha. But seriously, what could ever be called safe? Name anything, and I'm sure we could all come up with its potential for danger. That's what so stupid about all this (the regulations, the attitude the haters have towards vaping, etc).

IMO, the only truly safe thing is death. Absolutely no further harm can befall you.

If you ask 100 random people if green beans are safe, how many are going to go into tortuous explanations we see here ? Zero? Two?