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Honestly, I love people till a particular one gives me reason not to (but I still love my furbabies more :D )

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Dafuq? They already had a $0.55 tax per milliliter of eliquid? :confused: Costs me about half of that to mix 10ml...
$1.20? ... Do they also have to slap a cake in your face when you enter a vape shop?
Yeah. Figure how much tax can be saved by "importing" one liter of nic base to Chitcago and mixing yourself, or for friends. How long until there's an "informal" market for e-liquid in places with tax rates like that?
 

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Ya'll gonna need to adjust your nic stashes. The husband informed me last night (he was listening to Conspiracy I mean late night radio) and apparently "they" (he did not tell me the name of the company and I did not ask) have developed technology that "they plan to "seed" into the population that will extend life by 10-15 years. As "they" do it, "they" expect" a "cumulative effect" where it builds on itself and also, "they" expect to get better at it, so babies born today may live up to "a thousand years."

I had only two things to say (I was not going to argue it). "Okay so Armageddon is REALLY on the way, then?" and "Also, if I EVER find out I was "randomly seeded" heads will roll, I don't WANT an extra 15 years tacked on to the end of my life, thanks. Especially since they haven't fixed Alzheimer's AND the "beautification that comes with age."

But you may all want to factor that in into your calculations. You know. In case. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

I apologize I could not NOT share this information.

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Ya'll gonna need to adjust your nic stashes. The husband informed me last night (he was listening to Conspiracy I mean late night radio) and apparently "they" (he did not tell me the name of the company and I did not ask) have developed technology that "they plan to "seed" into the population that will extend life by 10-15 years. As "they" do it, "they" expect" a "cumulative effect" where it builds on itself and also, "they" expect to get better at it, so babies born today may live up to "a thousand years."

I had only two things to say (I was not going to argue it). "Okay so Armageddon is REALLY on the way, then?" and "Also, if I EVER find out I was "randomly seeded" heads will roll, I don't WANT an extra 15 years tacked on to the end of my life, thanks. Especially since they haven't fixed Alzheimer's AND the "beautification that comes with age."

But you may all want to factor that in into your calculations. You know. In case. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

I apologize I could not NOT share this information.

Anna
Better hang onto that Zombie Provari. It may come in handy down the road. ;)
 
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Ya'll gonna need to adjust your nic stashes. The husband informed me last night (he was listening to Conspiracy I mean late night radio) and apparently "they" (he did not tell me the name of the company and I did not ask) have developed technology that "they plan to "seed" into the population that will extend life by 10-15 years. As "they" do it, "they" expect" a "cumulative effect" where it builds on itself and also, "they" expect to get better at it, so babies born today may live up to "a thousand years."

I had only two things to say (I was not going to argue it). "Okay so Armageddon is REALLY on the way, then?" and "Also, if I EVER find out I was "randomly seeded" heads will roll, I don't WANT an extra 15 years tacked on to the end of my life, thanks. Especially since they haven't fixed Alzheimer's AND the "beautification that comes with age."

But you may all want to factor that in into your calculations. You know. In case. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

I apologize I could not NOT share this information.

I have always said "I am not dumb enough to want to live forever, nor naive enough to think I can." Really though we are already having problems with over crowding and limited resources and making people live that much longer would greatly compound that issue. Not to mention that if "THEY" truly believe in "man-made global warming" this would also further compound that issue as well. Personally I don't think that conspiracy theory is possible and even if it was, it is certainly not probable.
 

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babies born today may live up to "a thousand years."
Do "they" know that humanity is limited to about 11 billion on this planet because they die? Did "they" calculate the new limit based on 1000 years of lifetime?

Anyways my impression is the people on that radio show must have talked out of their a:censored:es :D
 
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I have always said "I am not dumb enough to want to live forever, nor naive enough to think I can." Really though we are already having problems with over crowding and limited resources and making people live that much longer would greatly compound that issue. Not to mention that if "THEY" truly believe in "man-made global warming" this would also further compound that issue as well. Personally I don't think that conspiracy theory is possible and even if it was, it is certainly not probable.
Don't worry Scott. The pharmaceutical companies and the mass produced food companies are doing everything they can to end our lives short. And due to this recent environment, the male sperm count has been dropping steadily over the decades. At this rate, human reproduction will become nonexistent within a hundred years. And then the cockroaches will take over the planet. :(
 
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I was not taking it all serious and I don't believe it either.

We all know that if there were any life extension "aids" they'd be purchased in high secrecy by the Boomer Generation not batted about on Conspiracy radio. Although, who knows, life expectancy has been increasing, although probably for reasons other than like, seeding the population with life aids.

There actually IS a life extension foundation, mostly funded by and utilized by the elderly, and every time I hear something on it (oh there are various methods, smart drugs, living just above starvation is said to be helpful," my stepdad got into it for a while (ironically, he died of a treatable cancer but he couldn't handle "treatment" which well, that was up to him I guess) and I will say every time I happened upon the materials it was all I could do not to scream, "You are spending your money on THIS?? THIS? When there are starving children and people dying of treatable diseases and yet you pick THIS? Just DIE already, you have already done your part and MORE to suck all the resources from the planet you can get plus the generations before and after you! Spending money in this merits euthanasia!"

However, I am sane, at least comparatively and no I don't think living to a 1000 years old is a great plan it is NOT going to make a DUMB person any smarter to be honest, so you're just compounding our current problems by a factor of WAY TOO MANY.

However, again, I am in doubt that "any fountain of youth" is to be found anywhere, let alone randomly seeded into the population, it must have been a slow night, or a full moon.

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Ya'll gonna need to adjust your nic stashes. The husband informed me last night (he was listening to Conspiracy I mean late night radio) and apparently "they" (he did not tell me the name of the company and I did not ask) have developed technology that "they plan to "seed" into the population that will extend life by 10-15 years.
10-15 years beyond my life expectancy?

Already got it covered! :vapor:
 

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Don't worry Scott. The pharmaceutical companies and the mass produced food companies are doing everything they can to end our lives short. And due to this recent environment, the male sperm count has been dropping steadily over the decades. At this rate, human reproduction will become nonexistent within a hundred years. And then the cockroaches will take over the planet. :(

Nah, the big cats will rule the planet next.
 

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Don't worry Scott. The pharmaceutical companies and the mass produced food companies are doing everything they can to end our lives short. And due to this recent environment, the male sperm count has been dropping steadily over the decades. At this rate, human reproduction will become nonexistent within a hundred years. And then the cockroaches will take over the planet. :(

Someone's been reading those Children of Men news stories.
 

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FDA Considers Online Vape Ban
Ali Anderson / September 26, 2018 / News & Media, Science & Policy, Data
THE US government is considering banning the online sales of e-cigarettes, it has been revealed.

Head of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Scott Gottlieb has admitted the shock move is one of the proposals "on the table" as part of its crackdown on teen vaping.

While speaking on a panel discussion on e-cigarettes hosted by US news website Axios on Tuesday, Gottlieb explained the FDA will reveal more about its future plans in November when they release new data on the use of e-cigarettes by minors.

The proposal has already been heavily criticized as a potential disaster to America's health with thousands of ex smokers having quit their deadly cigarette addiction thanks to vaping.

Gottlieb told the panel: “One of the things we’re looking at is whether or not we should change our regulations to address how these products are being sold, particularly how they’re being sold online.

“We have two problems – one with appeal – they are too appealing to kids and the other is access – they are too accessible to kids and we think the online portal is one of the reasons why they’re so accessible.”

He then admitted that, in the future, vape products could be treated like cigarettes, which are banned from online sales, and current vape websites could be shut down or restricted.

Gottlieb also revealed “new limits” on flavored e-cigarette products are also in the pipeline, since the range of candy and fruit vape flavors on the market is currently “too appealing” and “too accessible” to children.

The news comes just a few weeks after the FDA claimed there was a youth “epidemic” of vaping and has ordered five brands — Juul, Vuse, MarkTen, blu e-cigs, and Logic — to submit plans to address teen use of their products within 60 days.

It has also recently launched a hard-hitting campaign of online commercials and posters to be placed in thousands of high school bathrooms across America to try to put young people off vaping - which was slammed by academics and pro-health campaigners as “irresponsible” and potentially ineffective.

The news of a potential shutdown of selling vape products online by the US government agency – as well as a flavor ban - has also been hit with heavy criticism by health professionals, academics and vapers alike.

American Vaping Association's Gregory Conley told the Axios panel that enforcing bans on both flavors and sales could do huge damage to America’s public’s health, since vaping has helped over 4.5million ex smokers quit tobacco for good.

He explained: “I vape Tropical Twist, so it has some pineapple to it, so mostly I use fruits – the vast majority of adult vapers are using non tobacco flavors and it’s the non tobacco flavors that so many of ex smokers say: ‘That’s the reason why I was able to quit because once I'd had mango, once I'd had watermelon, a tobacco cigarette didn’t taste so good after a week or two.’

“No doubt flavors are a reason why people are drawn to the product but it’s not the only reason why youth use the product. When the government ask them: 'Why have you vaped?’, the number one and number two reasons are that: ‘It’s less harmful than smoking’ and ‘because it’s less harmful to those around me’.

“So ignoring the hurt – the grave damage – that this would do to adult smokers if there was a flavor ban tomorrow, if youth are using these products for nicotine, many will continue to use these products if there are flavors or not.”

He added: “Tobacco flavors are awful. You do not have harm reduction with these products. You can get rid of the whole category if you get rid of these products.”
 

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This campaign should follow in the path of other successful public health campaigns for kids like Don't Smoke, Don't Drink, Don't Have Sex, and Don't Take Drugs. If it works why reinvent the wheel?

Don't Bother Having a Life.
 

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FDA Considers Online Vape Ban
Ali Anderson / September 26, 2018 / News & Media, Science & Policy, Data
THE US government is considering banning the online sales of e-cigarettes, it has been revealed.

Head of the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Scott Gottlieb has admitted the shock move is one of the proposals "on the table" as part of its crackdown on teen vaping.

While speaking on a panel discussion on e-cigarettes hosted by US news website Axios on Tuesday, Gottlieb explained the FDA will reveal more about its future plans in November when they release new data on the use of e-cigarettes by minors.

The proposal has already been heavily criticized as a potential disaster to America's health with thousands of ex smokers having quit their deadly cigarette addiction thanks to vaping.

Gottlieb told the panel: “One of the things we’re looking at is whether or not we should change our regulations to address how these products are being sold, particularly how they’re being sold online.

“We have two problems – one with appeal – they are too appealing to kids and the other is access – they are too accessible to kids and we think the online portal is one of the reasons why they’re so accessible.”

He then admitted that, in the future, vape products could be treated like cigarettes, which are banned from online sales, and current vape websites could be shut down or restricted.

Gottlieb also revealed “new limits” on flavored e-cigarette products are also in the pipeline, since the range of candy and fruit vape flavors on the market is currently “too appealing” and “too accessible” to children.

The news comes just a few weeks after the FDA claimed there was a youth “epidemic” of vaping and has ordered five brands — Juul, Vuse, MarkTen, blu e-cigs, and Logic — to submit plans to address teen use of their products within 60 days.

It has also recently launched a hard-hitting campaign of online commercials and posters to be placed in thousands of high school bathrooms across America to try to put young people off vaping - which was slammed by academics and pro-health campaigners as “irresponsible” and potentially ineffective.

The news of a potential shutdown of selling vape products online by the US government agency – as well as a flavor ban - has also been hit with heavy criticism by health professionals, academics and vapers alike.

American Vaping Association's Gregory Conley told the Axios panel that enforcing bans on both flavors and sales could do huge damage to America’s public’s health, since vaping has helped over 4.5million ex smokers quit tobacco for good.

He explained: “I vape Tropical Twist, so it has some pineapple to it, so mostly I use fruits – the vast majority of adult vapers are using non tobacco flavors and it’s the non tobacco flavors that so many of ex smokers say: ‘That’s the reason why I was able to quit because once I'd had mango, once I'd had watermelon, a tobacco cigarette didn’t taste so good after a week or two.’

“No doubt flavors are a reason why people are drawn to the product but it’s not the only reason why youth use the product. When the government ask them: 'Why have you vaped?’, the number one and number two reasons are that: ‘It’s less harmful than smoking’ and ‘because it’s less harmful to those around me’.

“So ignoring the hurt – the grave damage – that this would do to adult smokers if there was a flavor ban tomorrow, if youth are using these products for nicotine, many will continue to use these products if there are flavors or not.”

He added: “Tobacco flavors are awful. You do not have harm reduction with these products. You can get rid of the whole category if you get rid of these products.”

Yeah... Scott has been (Not so Quietly) going around say'n that things are going to have to Change.

I guess it will be Big News only when it Does.
 
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