OH! And also, be careful pulling cheaper amber glass bottles out of the freezer to use later. They can crack because they warm faster than the base does. I'd transfer to a different non-glass container and let both warm to room temp then transfer back, if you so desire. *your results may vary.
Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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OH! And also, be careful pulling cheaper amber glass bottles out of the freezer to use later. They can crack because they warm faster than the base does. I'd transfer to a different non-glass container and let both warm to room temp then transfer back, if you so desire. *your results may vary.
As a sidenote, I've been on Remeron (Myrtazapine actually) for several months now and it's ok even though it doesn't perform miracles (what does?). I didn't get any side effects from starting to take it and I don't think I'll get any if I quit either by lowering the dosage before I do. I took it once already, a few years ago, and one day I decided to stop and just did and had very little and not at all disturbing side effects for just a couple of days or so. Myrtazapine is one of the very few antidepressants I tolerate actually. Thing is we're obviously not all the same.
I agree the mom and pop shops put their blood sweat and tears into their products! They work a hundred times harder and that company is in their name, they take great pride in what they do, I try my best to find local shops that do carry small local companies products and I've been fortunate enough to have found some incredible ejuice.
Think about it aren't we all the little guys,(like the little mom&pop companies), if we weren't, the government couldn't .... on all of us. I think their are a lot of people who don't really understand that everything in our lives is political, all our choices are and always have been ran by the government!!! We want to believe we live in the land of the free but let's face it, we don't!! We all have to stand together to protect the little guys and our favorite "BIG NAMED COMPANIES" Strength comes in numbers including all of the little guys and each and every one of us, teamwork...build a strong brick wall with people who are dedicated and passionate fighting for a cause that we all have in common, aka our vaping rights and abilities to continue purchasing our products etc., we need to realize we all have to protect everyone big or small. We have to keep the mindset that one person starts and on and on, before you know it one person turns into hundreds of thousands that's what this sight is about!!! We all have a common factor so do the little guys they deserve to keep their companies just like we should be able to keep on vaping. That means we have to care and fight for the littlest to the largest, we have to remember those big companies started as mom and pop shops, the got lucky quicker and found financial backing quicker and easier to be one of the big guys! The bigger they get isn't always better, you loose customer service, quality and they forget to care. Then we then turn into an order number without a name!
Bottom line to beat anything, you can't do it alone, strength comes in numbers and in this we all have to remember everyone who got into this (vaping, dripping diy'rs, etc.), no one can be left behind because when you add us all up were a big group include everyone. We're that much bigger.
The government as always wants their piece of the pie $$$$$$$$$$$. We just have to be smarter, merchandise can be labeled differently there's always a loophole for a loophole!!!
Stand strong tall and unified as one that's the only way you can win. people can't give up if we don't stand up for our rights (what's left of them), we won't have any.
Look back in history think of the women's suffrage. It took 1 woman who wanted to vote and it didn't happen over night or alone but eventually that 1 person who stood up and spoke and added more voices, she had gotten the government to pass the 19th amendment which gave women the right to vote.
This site was started because we believe in something in common we can't leave out the littlest of people. We all have to care about each person and stand together don't we!
You should provide more details about amber bottles and argon, etc. With links to where they can be found. I think this would be useful information for some.
@Tucsonbroker The FDA has expanded or will soon expand its definition of
intended use to what the device is actually used for despite any labeling
to the contrary.
The scope of the definition covers everything the FDA regulates.
"The intended use of a product determines whether it meets the definition of a drug, device, or other regulated product under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FDCA) and thus may be regulated by FDA. "
FDA Proposes Amending the Definition of “Intended Use” | Inside Medical Devices
For a clearer understanding see the link below.
http://www.raps.org/Regulatory-Focu...ig-Impact-on-Intended-Uses-for-Devices-Drugs/
Regards
mike
intended use to what the device is actually used for despite any labeling
to the contrary.
The scope of the definition covers everything the FDA regulates.
"The intended use of a product determines whether it meets the definition of a drug, device, or other regulated product under the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act (FDCA) and thus may be regulated by FDA. "
FDA Proposes Amending the Definition of “Intended Use” | Inside Medical Devices
For a clearer understanding see the link below.
http://www.raps.org/Regulatory-Focu...ig-Impact-on-Intended-Uses-for-Devices-Drugs/
Regards
mike
Welcome and thank you! Your link to the RCP report appeared down so for those who might/should be referring to it…
Nicotine without smoke: Tobacco harm reduction | RCP London
Good luck all.
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To me...this is something that any intelligent person would CHEER !!
Kids aren't stupid...they know cigarettes are bad and yet through the years they (we) still start smoking...NOW THEY HAVE A LESS HARMFUL CHOICE that WE did not have.
HALLEFREAKINGLUJAH !!
I was leaving it up to you all and what you want to pay. Amazon : search for wine preserver gas. You can also buy it from some chem places in a larger quantity that is 99.999% pure, but shipping is usually prohibitive as they ship it as a hazardous material. (amazon does not ship it as hazmat even if you buy multiple bottles) It's not dangerous but in -very- large quantities, in a sealed room, it could drive the oxygen out and suffocate you.
Amber bottles are about the same. Amazon, check the reviews. The smaller they are the stronger they'll probably be... same with price. The more expensive ones will be thicker. I use 250ML mainly to offset cost. You could certainly go smaller, and I've seen people recommend that - 2 reasons, 1) less likely to have a loss due to breakage and 2) you aren't messing with as much base at any single time - less exposure to air/heat/light.
Yep. I never wanted to get into DIY, but going to be studying pretty hard for the next week. I have no clue even how to store gallons of nic let alone make my own stuff but...I'll become an "expert" soon. I will do this just because I don't plan on making BT any richer than they already are and have to resort to buying their juice. They've already gotten too many of my family members lives and 16 years of wasted money from me.
Begging your masters not to make your chains too tight is not "fighting".
Telling them in no uncertain terms that you will not wear those chains is.
The last time I looked at flavorings, the only one that seemed to be specifically targeting "vape-safe" flavorings was FlavourArt. The others all seemed to keep vaping use at arms-length.
Certainly there is no way that the FDA can consider flavorings to be tobacco products. Since it is considered a food product, I'm sure that they regulate it, but under food safety terms.
But who knows. People are dying all over the country from tainted endoscopic scopes. The FDA would be helping, but are too busy destroying an industry right now..... please try again later.
Take a look at the charts in this NYT article, a ways down. 2015 National Youth Tobacco Survey.
F.D.A. Imposes Rules for E-Cigarettes in a Landmark Move
The first chart does show an increase in PV use. The other charts show decreases in smoked Tobacco.
The overview only pertains to free samples and regulations regarding sale to minors
which will come into to affect 90 days after publication in the Federal Register.
( I believe publication is today)
All other regulations become effective in 24 months or should I say one must
be in compliance with the regulations by 24 months from now when the regulations
become law. Note, there may be exemptions or exceptions.
Regards
Mike
I wouldn't overthink storing juice if I was new to it. Even with argon, there are still plenty of oxygen molecules floating around in the juice itself. The jury is out on the effectiveness of argon. It probably helps of course but how much it extends shelf like is unknown. And the shelf life of simple storage seems to be quite long as it is.
With that being said, I have nic pushing 3 years old in my freezer. Every single bottle comes out as good as new. Zero degradation whatsoever. My storage process is simple. 120ml amber glass filled to a 1/4" of airspace, polyseal cap (most bottles come with these nowadays), and I wrap plumbers tape around the top. I also vacuum seal each bottle but that's probably overkill. I strongly believe that properly stored nic will go 10+ years in the freezer. It may lose strength over time but there are cheap and easy kits that tell you the strength. All you need to do is adjust your recipe. Nic doesn't "spoil". It just slowly oxidizes. Oxidized nic actually has a nice flavor on it's own. I vape a tank from time to time to reset my taste palate. I could probably vape it exclusively if I had to and still be satisfied.
For anyone who wants to do the easy math on how long a liter of 100mg nic would last, here it is:
100 x 1,000 = 100,000mgs of nictone
I only go through 3mls of 6mg/day or 18mgs per day
100,000/18 = 5,555 days or 15 years. lol. I liter of nic will last me 15 years. And it costs less than $100.
Nic will expand and contract a little bit. A well know guy in the DIY forum (Kurt) is a chemist. He has provided invaluable info on nic storage. One thing he warned against was one of his bottles overflowed a little bit when it came to room temp because it was filled close to the top and the room was warmer when he brought it out than when he filled it up to store. I've never had that happen.
You can preserve flavors in the same manner as outlined above, for those reading. Not that I've done any of what I outlined. Especially for flavor, that would just be crazy. Right?
pbrusardo has videos about his visit to FlavorArt. They are the only company making flavoring safe for vaping.
In my sick, twisted mind, this is how I view this...
BT pays Washington DC to come up with these regulations. It forces ex-smokers who became vapers to become ex-vapers who go back to being smokers. BT is knowingly and wantingly killing human beings so they can make money and their accomplices in Washington DC are complicit in every way for the same reason. In short, it is voluntary manslaughter for profit. There isn't anything that can happen to these killers that would be beneath what they deserve.
I like playing it safe, argon is fairly cheap in relation to the cost of the base.
But I've had some non-diy liquids sitting on the shelf for 6+ years that are still very vapable, but I also don't dislike the pepper flavor that comes with oxygenation. I may have at one point had a liter bottle break taking it from one storage location to another. That may have been failure to decap or the bottle was cheap. I don't recommend it. The tears and liquid combination are a bitter clean up job.
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