Deeming Regulations have been released!!!!
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My immediate, albeit emotional reaction is this: Forbes put this as a $3.7 BILLION industry worth as of last year. Who built that? Two entities. The creative and forward thinking individuals and companies who've given us all these great mods, liquids, coils and ideas, and most importantly, us, the consumers, tinkerers and innovators who've sustained and grew this phenomenal thing. We all need to stand up to this and not let a inept bureaucratic government take away the gains we've made, health-wise and individual decision wise. After 45 years of smoking and three years smoke free, I'll be damned if the gov is going to force me back to it, just because it's more monies in their pockets. And that is the REAL reason this is happening. I will go black market/underground if forced to. But I shouldn't have to! Not when cigarettes, proven deadly for decades, are on the open market for ANYONE to buy.
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Actually YOU are needed over here, to march right into Congress and bawl "YOU"RE FIRED!!!!!" at 'em. (and they thought Donald Trump was a new thing here in the US...hah!)
It goes into effect the 91st day after after publication in the Federal Register, which is scheduled for 5/10. The gov. rarely counts the day of action as a day towards the 90, so I would think 8/10 would be the 91st day.
Oh, that's next anyway. I guarantee it. Sin tax. But booze and cigarettes, both known killers, march on.
That is My Understanding.
And if it Doesn't get to the Federal Registry until 6/10 or 7/10, then the 8/10 date just gets Pushed Out a little.
I think that although it must be submitted to congress by the FDA, congress doesn't have to act on it, and it would go into effect if they don't. If Congress votes to trash it, the President can sign or veto Congress' action.
Well, I'm not much younger than you, but my name is Sue and my address is......
DAMN! How'd you know I was planning on shinning up your drainpipe? Uh, I hope you make a secret mark so when you're in your twilight years, YOU'LL know the difference Gulp!I have All my Nicotine Base labeled "Ant Poison" just in case someone Breaks into my house and just happens to be a Vaper also.
It's a shame the FDA didn't use the term Personal Electronic Nicotine Inhalation System instead of ENDS. I'm sure they were aware of it. It would make reading 499 pages much more fun.
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There has been a lot of hang wringing over the FDA's intentions toward things like wire to make coils, ingredients for DIY and so on. I ran across this section. Note that they say "at this time" -
However, at this time, FDA intends to limit enforcement of the premarket authorization provisions to finished tobacco products. In this context, a finished tobacco product refers to a tobacco product, including all components and parts, sealed in final packaging intended for consumer use (e.g., filters or filter tubes sold separately to consumers or as part of kits). For example, an e-liquid sealed in final packaging that is to be sold or distributed to a consumer for use in a finished tobacco product will be subject to enforcement if it is on the market without authorization. In contrast, an e-liquid that is sold or distributed for further manufacturing into a finished ENDS product is not itself a finished tobacco product. At this time, FDA does not intend to enforce the premarket authorization requirements against such eliquids or other components and parts of newly deemed products that are sold or distributed solely for further manufacturing without a marketing order.
However, at this time, FDA intends to limit enforcement of the premarket authorization provisions to finished tobacco products. In this context, a finished tobacco product refers to a tobacco product, including all components and parts, sealed in final packaging intended for consumer use (e.g., filters or filter tubes sold separately to consumers or as part of kits). For example, an e-liquid sealed in final packaging that is to be sold or distributed to a consumer for use in a finished tobacco product will be subject to enforcement if it is on the market without authorization. In contrast, an e-liquid that is sold or distributed for further manufacturing into a finished ENDS product is not itself a finished tobacco product. At this time, FDA does not intend to enforce the premarket authorization requirements against such eliquids or other components and parts of newly deemed products that are sold or distributed solely for further manufacturing without a marketing order.
Yes, some vendors sell them. WizardLabs does. I've never used them. Supposedly, they're not highly accurate, but enough to be fairly useful.
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